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> Logic 7, An embarrasing day
majn
post Sun 19 Dec 2004, 09:37
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Yesterday in the studio I decided to risk Logic 7.

The reason for this was three-fold. Firstly you gotta do it sometime - and with all the exciting synths etc .. Secondly the singer for the band I was recording could sing in tune so I wasn't so worried about a lack of Autotune .. Thirdly - the Bass Player in the band is my local Mac dealer - so if I got any problems - he could check out the hardware side of things.

I've got to say this was the most embarrasing day in the studio I have ever had. And I've been working on music production for 5 years (3 with logic).

When I first started using logic on a PC and got hold of an "evaluation" version I used to get loads of crashes - but I expected that - and it showed me what a great engine Logic was - and encouraged me to go out and buy the full version.

Yesterday was worse than PC time. I logged all the crashes I got in a notebook - I had 15 throughout the course of the 6 hour session - for reasons as diverse as cancelling a bounce - to saving (!?!) - to editing a frozen track.

Even the track automation wouldn't work properly in places. We got several instances of files that were okay being converted from 24 bit to 8 bit format - which meant lost takes - nightmare. One of these files was two days old!

I think my local dealer was even more embarrased than I was - fortunately it was his takes that were lost.

Our conclusion - you're better off running a crap PC with a hacked version of Logic than running Logic Pro 7 on a G5 powermac.

Our recommendation - use Logic 6.4 - which we ended up doing after 6 hours of hell and lost takes. Definately don't use Logic 7 if you have a paying customer sat next to you - it will cost you more than you paid for the software.

When will Apple sort out some bug fixes?

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BobbiStyle
post Mon 20 Dec 2004, 19:09
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Hey Majh

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Maybe I can help. What version OS X and Logic 7 you have ? I am running 7 with 10.3.7. Have been running 7 for nearly 3 months now so maybe I can assist. (Upgraded from 2.5-3-4-5-6-7 etc...)

I have experienced problems switching sessions from 24/48 to 24/96 as the program doesn't allow for an import and convert like ProTools does. Long winded but works. The only major problem was bringing GarageBand songs in with retimed loops and then switching the bit rates.... had to convert the loops into real audio 1st.

I am also running it at home on a G4 1.2Ghz single chip Mac too with no problems. My "nemesis" is Cubase SX, crashes all the time!

As for "shame on Apple" most of the "bugs" were from Emagic. They spent too long making in-depth extended menu abilities instead of fixing blatant surface mistakes... The next version from Apple may help alleviate these too.


I have one last question, what program on a Mac do you usually use to do music?

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