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kd_rome
post Sun 5 Dec 2004, 17:40
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Hi guys!
I need to buy an external hard drive to use with Protools and my powerbook 17" 1.5 GHz.
I would like to know what do you think about the differences between a LaCie Big Disk Extreme 320GB with a Firewire 800 - Oxford 912-8Mb and a
Maxtor OneTouch™ II - 300GB with a Firewire 400 - Oxford 911-16 Mb.

Everytime a read a review it's always about people that use the hd for pro video/photo, I would like to know something about the ProAudio needs.
Thanks!
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CanadaRAM
post Wed 8 Dec 2004, 07:07
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QUOTE (kd_rome @ Dec 6 2004, 16:36)
I was cecking this page http://www.barefeats.com/fire45.html
but I can't understand something: what does Dual 2 channel and Dual 1 channel mean?

Two Channel vs One channel refers to Firewire ports and whether the machine has a separate Firewire interface chip for each port, or whether the 2 ports are simply attached to a single interface chip.

Think of a garden hose. If you take one hose and put a Y-splitter on the nozzle end, you have two "ports" but only one "channel" -- the same amount of water will come out, just 1/2 on each nozzle.

Now think of two different hoses connected to different taps, each one can deliver the full volume to its output (Port) This is two channel, much wetter (er.. faster).

This is also the reason why Firewire audio interfaces perform less well when you daisy-chain a hard drive off them; the drive data is contending with the audio data in the same hose (channel).

Setting up two-channel Firewire on most Macs requires installing a PCI Firewire card, or a PCMCIA Firewire interface on a Powerbook.

G5's have two channels, one for FW400 and one for FW800, so put the audio interface on the FW400 and the hard drive on the FW800. Two FW800 channels still requires a card.

A couple of the high end G4 towers had two FW400 channels, most didn't.

Barefeats found that when you use two channel Firewire the performance of a dual-drive setup is much better, simply because all the data is not trying to push through a single channel. Their reference to "D2 Dual 1 Channel" refers to the drive they were testing; the "LaCie D2 Dual" drive which has 2 drives in one case. They tested this drive with both 1-channel and 2-channel connections.

Ourmanflinty: Barefeats showed that the same Parallel IDE 7200 RPM Hitachi drive had significantly better throughput on Firewire 800 - about 50% better in fact - so I don't believe that Firewire 400 is higher in real-world throughput than the drive itself. http://www.barefeats.com/fire35.html

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Trevor
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- kd_rome   Firewire Hd: 400 Or 800?!?   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 17:40
- - Nels   For both audio and video, you'll want the fast...   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 18:36
- - kd_rome   Thanks for the answer! So you suggest the trip...   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 19:09
- - Nels   If you feel you'd need to have the 3 options(U...   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 22:16
- - lepetitmartien   Uh… USB2 is just on paper a little better than FW4...   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 22:16
- - kd_rome   I liked your answer, pretty clear and it's wha...   Sun 5 Dec 2004, 22:27
- - Nels   Yes, it can all be so confusing. One definite thi...   Mon 6 Dec 2004, 17:31
- - kd_rome   Yeah Nels, I posted the same question on the Digid...   Mon 6 Dec 2004, 17:36
- - ourmanflinty   don't forget that you won't get any more t...   Mon 6 Dec 2004, 18:33
- - Nels   Trevor, Just had to commend you on your concise e...   Wed 8 Dec 2004, 08:20
- - ourmanflinty   well, do the maths. real world sustained 32meg / s...   Thu 9 Dec 2004, 15:48
- - ourmanflinty   umm, one big file as in the barefeats tests shown ...   Thu 9 Dec 2004, 21:45
- - Vincent Online   Hmmm I appreciate this thred... I've having so...   Thu 9 Dec 2004, 22:39
- - ourmanflinty   You need to find out where the problem is, try goi...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 00:06
- - Vincent Online   QUOTE (ourmanflinty @ Dec 9 2004, 23:06)You n...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 02:34
- - ourmanflinty   bogs down pretty quick, any details? how many trac...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 14:28


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