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post Mon 11 Oct 2004, 08:22
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APPLE AUSTRALIAS RESPONSE TO THE SAME QUESTION!

Us long term Logic users, have been hung out to dry, worldwide! I have reported Apple to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/142

How many of us were happy using Logic Platinum 6.0 on OS 9? when you updated to LP 6.2.4 the Jumbo option had gone in the buffer menu.

Guess what! LP 6.2.4 keeps coming up with buffer audio error, too slow!

Apple want you to by OSX or ,make you think you need a G5!

I instaled OSX, for free of course! and LP 6.4.2 works very well indeed!

So to Logic Pro 6 and the update bullshit, not to mention pissing off all users who paid for plug ins, to find they now come free!

Logic Pro 6 has many bugs and who do we now call for tech support??

We can't go wrong with core audio! but what about Audio Units?

I have Antares Auto Tune, thats another story in itself, I had to pay for an AU converter to make the VST version work!

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Stuart,



The ACCC are fully aware of Apples Logic Pro update pricing structures, before I inform all professional Logic users in Australia to also vent their anger about Apple to the ACCC and I can assure you, there is a lot of us from the data base info I have in front of me!

As well as a drafted email, ready to be sent to all music publications in Australia, which will be printed!

Since I have recently paid for Logic Pro 6 at the over charged update price, a discretionary complimentary version of Logic Pro 7, would suffice!

Regards,

Adam

Adam,

Thank you for your enquiry. I appreciate that you would like to upgrade to Logic Pro 7. The upgrade is available to owners of Pro 6 or Logic Platinum/Gold 5 and 6 for the upgrade price of $499, which represents $1000 off the RRP of Logic Pro 7. There is also an upgrade available for owners of Logic Express 6, 7 and Big Box to Logic Pro 7 which is available for RRP $999 inc. GST. These the only upgrade paths available.

I hope that this helps clarify things for you.

Regards
Stuart

On 07/10/2004, at 9:12 AM, Adam Lee wrote:

Stuart,

Firstly there was never Logic Pro 5, it was called Logic Platinum 5, followed by Logic Platinum 6, then came Logic Pro 6, which I recently updated to.

I am fully aware of how much Apple are asking Logic Pro 6 users to pay for updating to Logic Pro 7!

My point is that Apple are not taking into account the serious professional user who has purchased the top end version of Logic from the start, in my case, 15 years ago with Logic 2.5.

Apple are offering the same upgrade price to users of cut down, less expensive versions of Logic Gold 5/6 & Logic Platinum 5/6, do not insult my intelligence, there is no discount of $1000 for a Logic Pro 6 user!

Is it not ethical to offer upgrades in accordance with versions purchased, like Emagic always did! It seems like the long term professional users of Logic, are being asked to subsidize the first time buyer or basic less expensive Logic version owner!

Do you not agree?

Regards,

Adam


Hi Adam,

I am a little confused with your question. As a Logic Pro 5 or 6 user you can upgrade to Logic Pro 7 for $499 which is a discount of $1000 off the RRP.

Regards
Stuart

On 05/10/2004, at 11:39 PM, Adam Lee wrote:


Stewart,

 As an an established British music producer, and up until recent distribution changes, an endorsee of Electric Factory, I have always upgraded to the latest software version of Logic when available, recently purchasing Logic Pro 6.  

 I find the pricing structures for a first time buyer of Logic Express 7 (A$ 499) or Logic Pro 7 (A$ 1,499) are astounding!

 But what about the professional user like myself, who has used Logic for over 15 years! Is it not commonsense to offer upgrades in accordance with versions purchased!  

 You are fully aware, Logic Gold 5/6 users who have never updated to Logic Platinum 5/6, or Logic Platinum 5/6 users, who have never updated to Logic Pro 6 are offered the Logic Pro 7 update for A$ 499.  

 Apple have its upgrade pricing structure completely wrong! Are Apple seriously going to keep insulting an up to date version purchaser, each time there is an upgrade, as you have already with the introduction of Logic Pro 6 and now Logic Pro 7?

 Unless I personally receive a copy of Logic Pro 7 at a discretionary price, I will have no choice other than to report my findings about Apple to consumer affairs.

 Kind regards,

 Adam Lee
  

http://www.adamleemusic.com
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- news   Logic PRO & Logic Express 7   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 15:52
- - arvidtp   Distributed realtime audio processing?? holy crap!   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 15:52
- - krur   it's a shame... i paid >200€ this spring fo...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 16:58
- - lepetitmartien   Krur, you're not the only one complaining, App...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 17:09
- - guest_brian   ok let's be realistic. the upgrade is $2...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 18:27
- - bobdemaa   I'm with you Brian. I hope that Apple has focu...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 19:08
- - guest_charles   OK, well I agree that it's a little unfair tha...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 21:05
- - bobdemaa   It maybe that Apple will offer a rebate to those w...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 21:49
- - guest_badtz   QUOTE (guest_brian @ Sep 29 2004, 18:27)now i...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 22:35
- - Allan Phillips   I just tried today and Apple will not offer a grac...   Wed 29 Sep 2004, 22:43
- - krur   ok, i'll go the "complain" mode.. ...   Thu 30 Sep 2004, 00:06
- - dr.wackler   QUOTE (krur @ Sep 29 2004, 15:58)it's a s...   Thu 30 Sep 2004, 01:42
- - dr.wackler   QUOTE (guest_badtz @ Sep 29 2004, 21:35)QUOTE...   Thu 30 Sep 2004, 01:52
- - peter893   This Waveburner news is Great!I really can...   Thu 30 Sep 2004, 04:39
- - dingo   On one thread a girl from Sweden said she'd b...   Fri 1 Oct 2004, 13:21
- - guest_Tom   The bottom line is you get what you pay for. I...   Fri 1 Oct 2004, 21:05
- - bobdemaa   QUOTE (dingo @ Oct 1 2004, 12:21)On one threa...   Fri 1 Oct 2004, 21:10
- - bobdemaa   QUOTE (dr.wackler @ Sep 30 2004, 00:42)QUOTE ...   Fri 1 Oct 2004, 21:12
- - Fields   I've called Apple was told"tough luck...   Sun 3 Oct 2004, 22:35
- - lepetitmartien   We have a petition running on the FR side, I will ...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 03:49
- - Fields   Yes, please share! I know 3 people who purchas...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 04:55
- - swilder   I think an important question is: Will upgrading ...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 06:47
- - Didick   Hi. Excuse me for my english but i'm french a...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 14:03
- - Don Skinnie   What bothers me is that Apple justifies the price ...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 14:59
- - Barb   Absolutely! Call Apple and tell them when and...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 16:28
- - lepetitmartien   As I wrote elsewhere… Can Apple be OFFICIAL on th...   Mon 4 Oct 2004, 17:39
- - Long Time Logic User   DO NOT BUY LOGIC PRO 7 IF YOU WANT TO USE 3RD PART...   Sun 10 Oct 2004, 05:59
- - bobdemaa   You Unregistered moron. get a clue before spoutein...   Sun 10 Oct 2004, 08:58
- - editbrain   i was also informed from another post that there i...   Sun 10 Oct 2004, 18:27
- - bobdemaa   yes there is, it happens automatically when you op...   Sun 10 Oct 2004, 21:45
- - Adam Lee Music   APPLE AUSTRALIAS RESPONSE TO THE SAME QUESTION...   Mon 11 Oct 2004, 08:22
- - bobdemaa   I have no sympathy for you. If logic worked so gre...   Mon 11 Oct 2004, 09:25
- - onelouder   Your Gibson analogy has no bearing on this subject...   Mon 11 Oct 2004, 10:29
- - chmara   The discussion (or diatribes) against the upgrade ...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 06:01
- - Guest   QUOTE (bobdemaa @ Oct 10 2004, 08:58)You Unre...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 06:02
- - bobdemaa   This list is one of the most negative forums I hav...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 06:37
- - Guest   QUOTE (bobdemaa @ Oct 12 2004, 06:37)So wipe ...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 06:56
- - dr.wackler   QUOTE (bobdemaa @ Oct 12 2004, 05:37)This lis...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 07:20
- - arvidtp   As the first poster on this topic, however unrelat...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 15:57
- - Martin McCollom   British schoolteacher. Music Department recently (...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 23:05
- - careyjames   I bought full logic 6 Pro 999.00 only 6 days befor...   Wed 17 Nov 2004, 02:58
- - dr.wackler   QUOTE (careyjames @ Nov 17 2004, 01:58)I boug...   Wed 17 Nov 2004, 06:48
- - djlokey   Hi people I agree that update is not fair to long...   Mon 14 Mar 2005, 09:55
- - bobdemaa   I think the real problem here is the transition fo...   Mon 14 Mar 2005, 20:30


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