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vijay
post Sun 21 Sep 2003, 13:54
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Hi everyone..

I'm a beginner into DAW and doing my sound enginnering in India.Im so lost how to setup a Mac based DAW coz everyone is using PC coz its more cost effective here.I'm not sure what mac to buy?I mac or Power Mac... I macs are looking very cost effective but im not sure if its going to be useful to me... i have no clue what soundcard to use and how can i get the inputs? whether i can go for MOTU or get one of the 002 box...Im basically using cubase, protools and also reason... Please help me with the complete setup....Thanks for the same...

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lepetitmartien
post Sun 21 Sep 2003, 21:56
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Welcome Vijay!

First what exactly are you doing with it? Inputs/outputs needed.

Restrain the question a little it'll help to answer.

Have a good read here too, a lot of config questions have been already asked and there's deep knowledge in it wink.gif


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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 06:41
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Hi Martein
Im basically gonna record and mix around 20 channels...So ive choosen to buy a Motu 828...but then im not very sure tats a good idea but i heard tats a gr8 piece of hardware.can i use 828 with imac?is digi 002 is good than 828? both works on a firewire so it will work with imac rite?anyway getting a G4 is extrememly expensive in india say 100% more cost. tats why im looking for an i mac...but i want to make sure tat it should do well else il spend for a G4...thnks for ur help...

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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 06:48
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an 828 will work fine on an Imac. In fact you will be very impressed with it's capabilities (828). Where your problems will start will be with the 20 chanels at one time, but that can be solved by instlling as much ram as the iMac will handle. My 350 mHz iMac with 192 megs of ram will run a maximum of 10 stereo tracks (depending on the length of track), I suppose I could run 20 tracks in mono, but have not tryed it.


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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 06:56
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Hi chuck
what software you use for mixing and editing with 828? i think 828 has only two XLR inputs so what have you done to have more inputs?is there any latency problem with i mac? thnks for ur help.

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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 07:48
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actually I do not have an 828 at all, but all I have read has really left me wanting... but alas, no firewire on my mac sad.gif However it is my understanding that the 828 had 8 audiio ins and 8 audio outs... I believe the 2 xlr's you are referring to are actually preamped with fantom power (for use with mics). I run all audio straight into the sound in of the computer via a 20 chanel mixer....that has 48v fantom power for 8 of the chanels (xlr).


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vijay
post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 08:23
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so is it a good buy to buy a G4 1.25 i mac with 1 gb of ram a motu 828 ?do ya think its a good setup? or can i go for a power mac G4 and go for a pci based card?
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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 08:33
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I think the G4 iMac and 828 will be a great way to go, as long as you do not forsee the need for some type of expansion. That is the true drawback to the iMac, when it comes to changing cards and such, it becomes a real pain, or impossibility... I went with an iMac because of the price, and then added everything else externally. It has been a realy great ride so far, but I'm looking to buy the new G5 power mac for expanability (ie changing of burner, addition of harddrive space, capabilities of utilizing true 5 point surround sound), but that is still a long time off.


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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 08:46
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Thanks for tat update
do ya recommend to buy a G5 now?i know it is not ready for a smooth ride...but im gonna invest money now so do u think its worth buying a power mac G5?i think 828 will work smoothly but the PCI is a bit different from the G4 isnt it?anyway a G5 1.6 is almost cost twice as a i mac G4 1.25 is it a worthy investment?
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post Mon 22 Sep 2003, 09:14
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The only reason I would go for a G5 is because it is the latest. I'm not sure if it is all that better than a G4, but anything is going to be better than the G3 I'm using now. I guess it all comes down to cost. If something cheeper will work fine for an accepable period of time, then go for cheeper. I go for something that is going to last the longest. There are alot of variables in the mix. If at sometime in the near future you're going to be able to get a G5 at a reasonable price, you might want to question the purchace of an iMac G4. If you're going to be stuck with your choice for a long period of time and funds might not be available in the future, go for the biggest bang... Also, you are going to be using a different platform, so it might be a wise choice to go for the iMac, as you may find it does not suit your needs (doubtful) vs. a PC. At any rate, the 828 is universal, and extreemly usefull.


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post Tue 23 Sep 2003, 14:21
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if im connecting a mixer like yamaha O2R can i get those tracks into mac via 828 so tat i can mix and add more plugins in the mac?if yes how many channel will 828 allow?im planned to buy a dual 1.25 G4 with 1 gb ram...is it a good choice?im pretty scared to go for a G5...
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post Wed 24 Sep 2003, 13:14
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I don't blame you for holding off on the G5. So far I've heard nothing but good about them, still I think I'll give it a bit more time before jumping in! Yes, you will be able to connect a mixer into the 828. If I'm not mistaken the 828 will allow for 8 chanels. Of cource you will need to choose a program that will also handle the 8 chanels (should mention something about 8 bus capability). You may want to also concider getting a multi bus mixer, so that you can utilize the full cababilities of you setup. That is if you plan on recording up to 8 tracks at a time (simultainiously), if not it won't matter. The G4 you speek of should exceed any expectations you may have, coupled with the 1 gb ram there should be few road blocks (if any).


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post Wed 24 Sep 2003, 15:24
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if i want to record more than 8 tracks simultaneously i cant do it rite?even if i have a digi002 and protools it is limited to 8 channel rite?will buying a dat and recording directly from the mixer and bringing the tracks from dat to mac will work?is this a good idea?coz im surely will be handling more than 8 simultaneous tracks tats why i want a mixer...but i also want it into my mac to mix with so gimme a suggestion...
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I had to take out a loan to get my iMac 400 DV. It has a 10 gig hardrive and I upgraded the ram to 320. If I had to do it all over again, I would have taken out a larger loan and gotten a G4. I don't like all in ones to begin with. If the monitor goes bad, you are dead in the water. You have to take the stupid thing in and have the monitor replaced which is more expensive than getting a new monitor not to mention all that down time while waiting for repairs. If you get a tower, you can bip on down to a store, get a new monitor and be working again within an hour. (LOL, of course that is if you have the money and the store is close.) Also, if you know someone who has a spare monitor you can borrow it.

Also the iMacs are not as upgradable as the tower macs. It's dangerous to open the case if you don't know what you are doing.

Anyway, that is why my next mac will not be an all in one.

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