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  Mon 11 Nov 2002, 13:05
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I'm about to buy a new system for use as a pro mobile setup. I've got a PT Mix Plus System in my Studio (which I'm probably going to let die because I can't justify giving Digidesign another 10-15K just to stay 'up-to-date'). So... I'm looking at Logic 5 OSX (been using v.4 for a while - extremely impressed with all the features and instruments). I need a Pro front end (I've been using Apogee's in my Studio) and I will probably go with the Prism Dream ADA as it sounds amazing and is completely upgradeable as far as sample and bit rates go.
But which audio card to buy...? Unfortunately I've been spoiled with ProTools as far as latency goes (by this I mean happily monitoring an input with Plugins on it while recording, while also running up to 40 other tracks with Plugins on them) and I've been led to believe that I can now get this type of performance from a Native system on a super fast Mac under OSX. True? Is it, or will it be possible for example to record and monitor an Electric Guitar track with an 'Amplitude' type plugin on the channel with acceptable latency while running lots of other tracks in my session? I've been watching the 'Hammerfall' website with interest, apparently their cards can take on some of the DSP involved in keeping the latency time down. But will this become obsolete with the claims that OSX with it's Core Audio will accomplish near to zero latency with no additional DSP hardware? I really like the look of the new UAD card with it's ADAT I/O. I was planning to buy a UAD card anyway as I've demo-ed one, and the Plugins to my ears seem better than the Bomb Factory equivalents. So basically what I'm asking... (sorry for the long drawn out, bracket infested post!) ... can someone give me suggestions for an audio card and... whats the truth about all the latency free recording claims under OSX? Can I get performance equal to my Mix Plus on a new Native system? Thankyou for bearing with me! |
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Mon 11 Nov 2002, 13:14
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 Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 10-Aug 02 From: Rimghobb - UA Member No.: 6,734 |
This was a post, but it was a wrong post, and I can't find the delete button. I need a delete button in my life: a red one, preferably flashing. But I suppose this will have to do.
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 Mon 11 Nov 2002, 13:25
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 15-Aug 02 From: DUBLIN - IE Member No.: 6,879 |
QUOTE (Levon River @ Nov 11 2002, 12:14) This was a post, but it was a wrong post, and I can't find the delete button. I need a delete button in my life: a red one, preferably flashing. But I suppose this will have to do. :D What!!?? |
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Mon 11 Nov 2002, 22:30
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 10-Aug 02 From: Rimghobb - UA Member No.: 6,734 |
JackC: I wrote a reply about Creamware to you, then realized we're in the OS X forum and you had asked about a setup for OS X, and they aren't supporting OS X--at least not yet. And I couldn't find a way to delete my post, so I edited it to what you read. That's all.
It were a joke, son. You know...   CJack? Don't get all  on me.
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Tue 12 Nov 2002, 00:44
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 15-Aug 02 From: DUBLIN - IE Member No.: 6,879 |
No offence taken at all, just didn't know what you were going on about. Thanks for replying.
Any ideas for me? |
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 Tue 12 Nov 2002, 23:12
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 15-Aug 02 From: DUBLIN - IE Member No.: 6,879 |
See what you mean Levon; can't seem to be able to delete this
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 Tue 12 Nov 2002, 23:15
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 15-Aug 02 From: DUBLIN - IE Member No.: 6,879 |
Something I said?
 Anyone? |
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Wed 13 Nov 2002, 00:27
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I am using the RME Digiface with 2 RME ADI-8 AE's.
Apart from protools this card definitely has the lowest latency around (under OS9). I have it as low as 1.5ms. I have been using the beta drivers under OS X and latency seems as good if not better. I haven't done any tests comparing OS9/OS X yet and have not compared it to any other cards under OS X. I am working totally mixerless and have no problem with monitoring latency with 26 input channels. In terms of quality of the RME equipment I have had friends who have changed from protools to RME and are very happy with the performance and actually prefer the sound. I also own a UAD-1 card (and also a powercore), amazing effects and you can pick them up for US$599 (amazing value compared to protools plug-ins). Hope this helps a bit. |
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 Wed 13 Nov 2002, 02:48
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 Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 11-Jun 02 From: London - UK Member No.: 5,044 |
just to "enlighten" you guys.
once you've posted, if you want to delete it, click on the delete button at the top right of your post... oh yeah, latency under osx is minimal enough (1ms)to be neglible. rme and ua products are truly "pro" and i also prefer their "sound" to digi. logic software is only 100% better than protools software. you'll have $13'000 left in the bank and a BIG smile on your face. peace, later... -------------------- one for all and all for one...
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Wed 13 Nov 2002, 13:30
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 15-Aug 02 From: DUBLIN - IE Member No.: 6,879 |
Thanks guys, you've confirmed my faith in a nice 'Native' system. I'll happily start shopping straight away.
Cheers. |
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