 Dp6 Upgrade At 195€, do you accept this? |
 Thu 3 Jul 2008, 21:20
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SuperHero  Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 19-Nov 02 From: Bruxelles - BE Member No.: 9,408  |
Well, it seems obvious the upgrade's price of DP6 is 195$, all over the US.
Converting that price in € would give us a price of 123€. Yet, the price of this upgrade will be 195€, in most of the EU countries! I, personally, don't accept that treatment. Motu is not totally responsable of his distributors, and I agree with the way they sell their products, and let some updates free of charge. But in this case, I can't accept that.  Don't forget 195€ is the customer's price, not a distibutor's price (including marging...). Linking this with the average currency 's conversion will place that upgrade at +- 300$ !!!!!! OK! Of course they are ship's costs,and so on, but don't you find the difference is unacceptable? What do you think? French users and some belgian ones are furious! Let's have a look... http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=for...34&start=15 DP's french community is about 3000 people! Let's imagine how many users that represents in the whole EU DP's community... in Germany, the Netherlands, Zwitserland,Italy, and so on...? I hope this will help to get a decent price...  Otherwise, I will seriously consider Apple'offer with Logic Pro. -------------------- MacPro dual 2.66 - 8 Go - SL10.6.6- DP 7.2.1 - RME FFCE 800 - URS, Sonnox, Stilwell, Nomad Factory, Kontakt 4.2.2, Trillian, Stylus, EZ drummer, SD2, UVIworkstation, Altiverb - KRK - JBL
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Thu 3 Jul 2008, 21:51
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We are swimming in the open capitalism in the country of human rights _ For my part, I thought rather Cubase 4! -------------------- Mac Pro 2 X 3,06 Ghz sous 10.10.5. 24 Go RAM _ DigitalPerformer 6.12, Kontakt 5.6.1 ,MX4, Fireface800 X 2 et MidiExpress XT Apple 20" X 2 et UAD-1 Express X 2 + UAD_2 Quad + Duo(Ouf) _ Gibson ES 295 pour recherche de l'anti-accord absolu _ FilterBank2 Sherman & Gibson Explorer _ Melodyne Studio _Biscuit par OTO _
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Thu 3 Jul 2008, 22:03
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 Member Group: Validating Posts: 52 Joined: 03-Oct 04 From: Paris - FR Member No.: 52,392 |
Do we have the possibility to force European importers to respect the rules of the game?
I though we can cause we are in a strong position: we are victims of discrimination on the selling price. Please Mister MOTU try to understand our position. We want to keep Digital Performer cause we believe in the quality of the product but by the fault of your dealers in europe, we are expecting to change Digital Performer for another sequencer ( for most of us, Logic will replace DP). Please Mister MOTU, try to change its business practices unfair otherwise you will lose many customers -------------------- Je crois en la force de ceux que l'on croit faible, parce qu'ils ont connu la difficulté, les épreuves de la vie, aussi durent soient elles...
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 Fri 4 Jul 2008, 15:35
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 14-May 05 From: Caracas - VE Member No.: 65,694 |
Hi everybody:
Well, is not just MOTU, I expended some time recently in Spain and could chek some prices...It´s amazing how people value US products (must I say over-value). Almost every musician is glad to pay almost twice the price of a Fender Jazz Bass, for instance, rather than try a wonderful European well made instrument.. I also could see the same ticket for a bunch of Japanese pedals.... So, let´s face it.....It is an unfair world, there are no rules......and we are in the middle of it.....dealing with PIRACY and Global Weather changes...... Why don´t we go back a little in time and make our music with our head...?? Happy Weekend... G
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Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:40
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SuperHero Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 19-Nov 02 From: Bruxelles - BE Member No.: 9,408 |
Thank's for your reply emgcarra, but you are not totally forced to accept unfair rules.
In this case, Motu isn't the cause of that. But there are some commercial strategies better than the others, for instance Toontrack... http://www.toontrack.com/s20.asp No comment -------------------- MacPro dual 2.66 - 8 Go - SL10.6.6- DP 7.2.1 - RME FFCE 800 - URS, Sonnox, Stilwell, Nomad Factory, Kontakt 4.2.2, Trillian, Stylus, EZ drummer, SD2, UVIworkstation, Altiverb - KRK - JBL
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Sun 6 Jul 2008, 21:22
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SuperHero Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 19-Nov 02 From: Bruxelles - BE Member No.: 9,408 |
Eu users of DP are so rare.
We are THE three ones! Ouch! I'm gonna buy Logic... 
-------------------- MacPro dual 2.66 - 8 Go - SL10.6.6- DP 7.2.1 - RME FFCE 800 - URS, Sonnox, Stilwell, Nomad Factory, Kontakt 4.2.2, Trillian, Stylus, EZ drummer, SD2, UVIworkstation, Altiverb - KRK - JBL
Neve 8801 - Brauner - Roland A-37, etc. |
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 Mon 7 Jul 2008, 14:06
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 Moderator In Chief (MIC)  Group: Editors Posts: 15,189 Joined: 23-Dec 01 From: Paris - FR Member No.: 2,758 |
Melenko> That's exactly what I am thinking about…
more bangs for the bucks, even if DP is a cool DAW.It's not MOTU only issue, it's general with most US editors in the software business. Even with the VAT it's not fair. Even Apple has a long history of strange change policies…  Edit: The french importer is right now giving explanations in the French forum in a cool and informative debate. -------------------- Our Classifeds • Nos petites annonces • Terms Of Service / Conditions d'Utilisation • Forum Rules / Règles des Forums • MacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
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Tue 8 Jul 2008, 00:29
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SuperHero Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 19-Nov 02 From: Bruxelles - BE Member No.: 9,408 |
Thank's LPM, but I can't find where he really explains the situation...
-------------------- MacPro dual 2.66 - 8 Go - SL10.6.6- DP 7.2.1 - RME FFCE 800 - URS, Sonnox, Stilwell, Nomad Factory, Kontakt 4.2.2, Trillian, Stylus, EZ drummer, SD2, UVIworkstation, Altiverb - KRK - JBL
Neve 8801 - Brauner - Roland A-37, etc. |
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Tue 8 Jul 2008, 21:29
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SuperHero Group: Members Posts: 4,781 Joined: 19-Nov 02 From: Bruxelles - BE Member No.: 9,408 |
-------------------- MacPro dual 2.66 - 8 Go - SL10.6.6- DP 7.2.1 - RME FFCE 800 - URS, Sonnox, Stilwell, Nomad Factory, Kontakt 4.2.2, Trillian, Stylus, EZ drummer, SD2, UVIworkstation, Altiverb - KRK - JBL
Neve 8801 - Brauner - Roland A-37, etc. |
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Thu 10 Jul 2008, 09:23
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 29-Dec 04 From: Berlin - DE Member No.: 57,470 |
QUOTE (melenko @ Thu 3 Jul 2008, 20:20)  Well, it seems obvious the upgrade's price of DP6 is 195$, all over the US. Converting that price in € would give us a price of 123€. Yet, the price of this upgrade will be 195€, in most of the EU countries! I, personally, don't accept that treatment. Motu is not totally responsable of his distributors, and I agree with the way they sell their products, and let some updates free of charge. But in this case, I can't accept that. Don't forget 195€ is the customer's price, not a distibutor's price (including marging...). Linking this with the average currency 's conversion will place that upgrade at +- 300$ !!!!!! OK! Of course they are ship's costs,and so on, but don't you find the difference is unacceptable? What do you think? French users and some belgian ones are furious! Let's have a look... http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=for...34&start=15 DP's french community is about 3000 people! Let's imagine how many users that represents in the whole EU DP's community... in Germany, the Netherlands, Zwitserland,Italy, and so on...? I hope this will help to get a decent price... Otherwise, I will seriously consider Apple'offer with Logic Pro. Hello I'm new to this forum The prices in the US are normaly without taxes, thats why the differences are so enormous. One thing I found very funny?!? when you try to buy online is that there is actually no 'germany' in the list but countries like Ghana, Federal State of Micronesiaor Butan etc ( how many copies of DP are licensed in these countries?) |
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