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packrat_17
post Mon 5 Aug 2002, 21:13
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THE DIGI 002!!
IT'S HERE...OR RATHER - IT WILL BE SOON.
GO LOOK - you all know where.

AND here i was all set to go
super portable with a rackmount 896
and a suped up powerbook.

this has set my decision making process back
like three or four months
i am now that convinced i will never have final decisions about
my studio.

i searched the forums and didn't see any other posts about this yet.
gosh and GAHHH!!! DIGI 002.
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packrat_17
post Mon 5 Aug 2002, 21:26
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DIGIDESIGN DIGI 002
QUICK RESPONSE

SURPRISES - GOOD
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1. IT ACTUALLY EXISTS...
2. BUILT-IN CONTROL SURFACE AND
USABLE AS a stand-alone digital mixer - i'm all agog. AGLEAGGLE AGLE
[but this means not really rackmountable (mmm...896) and
a lot of cable dangling of the back for such a small desktop box]

SURPRISES - NOT SO GOOD
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1. ONLY 4 PREAMPS - I WAS SORT OF EXPECTING 8 (compete with 896)
2. INFO kind of incomplete - are the 1/4" outs and ins BALanced (like the 896) or UNBALanced like the (001). i think unbalanced. SIGH!
3. KINDA UGLY - but hey whatev.

GAHHH - what a wrench in an almost complete plan.
MAYBE i am asleep and dreaming.

SETH.
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packrat_17
post Tue 6 Aug 2002, 16:30
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WAIT - i am confused.
WHY AREN'T people talking about this at all?

DO YOU SHARE MY GENERAL DISGUST
with digidesign and their sort of
unfriendly business strategy?
sticking my neck out a bit there...
please call me on this
i'd love to discuss it

after an afternoon/evening of thinking
about it I am pretty sure i am still going
with the 896.
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post Tue 6 Aug 2002, 17:01
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Why?

Maybe because most of the people (3/4th) on the site are in the french forums and have already discussed of it, their love/hate relationship with Digi 2 weeks ago (well, the love/hate they do that all the time wink.gif.

But it's great you point it here smile.gif

Got to wake them up a bit

I L-O-V-E the commercial video with the 002 lying in a sort of studio until the guy take it and you see it wasn't connected…

A main point is at the price you can check other solutions maybe less integrated but more versatile software wise.

(and please, let the shift key sleep a little, we can't hear the music wink.gif cool.gif


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post Tue 6 Aug 2002, 17:55
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I spoke with a digi rep who wasn't all the complementary of the 002. Have you thought of picking up a cheap 001 on ebay? I have used my 001 for 3 years now with a 7 year old macintosh and see no reason to get rid of it.

Regarding preamps: As I understand it, the preamps on the digidesign equipment are better than its competitors–focusrite. I can attest to the incredible sound quality of these preamps, especially when used with a good mic.

One drawback of ProTools software: You do not get unlimited "virtual" tracks. The latest update of protoolsLE allows you only 32 tracks max. This makes mixing and arranging messy and combersome as you cannot split up every instrument on its own track most of the time. Fortunately, you can use third party software with digidesign equipment.

What is the price difference between 002 and the other? Maybe that will be a determining factor. Remember, you will need to buy FX plugins!
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post Tue 6 Aug 2002, 18:39
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To be sure, the Digi 002 is worthy of some drool. I'm still going to get the motu 828, as it better suits my purposes and my bank account.

As far as the number of preamps...I guess that you can't everything. It is an interface AND a control surface, mind you, and my guess would be that the 1/4" jacks are balanced. This will be marketed as the step above the 001 and they're targeting portable pro's who need balanced ins. Just my opinion (hope).

Digi consistently pisses me off with their "our way or the highway" strategy, but I am also consistently impressed with the quality of what they put out.


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post Fri 9 Aug 2002, 18:44
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ok.. yeah i seen it and at first I thought cool... then when I looked at the specs and then the price... well lets just say that I won't be selling my Digi001 for the Digi002. Sure its nice to have the hands on controller but I think your average home recording hobbyist such as myself doesn't really need all those bells and whistles and probably don't feel the need to spend the extra money for it. I use automation enough that it really doesn't bother me not having faders to move around and such and I have a Shuttle Pro Control that helps manipulate most tasks for me anyhow and it was just $100 bucks.

I also wouldn't be happy with it being another desktop device due to my studio setup... I use a Quick LoK Z stand and have a 6 space rack mounted underneath that works great for holding my Digi001 and Glyph drive as well as patchbay and few other processors.

So yeah Digi002 is neat but I didn't think it was worth the hype.


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hmmmmmm... Can't knock the unit. For all the Digi001 users (that includes me as of last week) Just be jealous or buy a unit.
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post Thu 15 Aug 2002, 15:46
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Oh, yeah, I can knock the unit.

One word: proprietary. Yes, I do share packrat_17's "general disgust" for Digidesign and their imperial ways.

Reminds me of the way cattle are prodded into chutes.

The 001 still sits way overpriced for what it offers in my opinion, and the specs for the 002 haven't bowled me over with any "gee-whiiz" factor.

I'm looking at the Event EZbus, but that's in another thread...
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post Sat 30 Nov 2002, 10:32
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Oops! Dodgydesign will insist on calling themselves the best, won't they?
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But then again, any inferior company on their way down is bound to act like a sheister towards their customers in the marketplace, aren't they? Grab the money while yer can, ker-ching ker-ching, etc...
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Rather a tad transparent of them...

Digi 001 isn't a great choice of kit. It's like something Radio Shack would manufacture...plasticky, cheap and with a price tag way in excess of it's wares...
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As for Digi 002...damann mentioned something about a large lump of plastic...
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