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ruczaj
post Fri 27 Jan 2006, 19:34
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Hi all!
I'd like to buy any of those interfaces:
M-Audio Audiophile USB
or
M-Audio FireWire 410

Minimal system requirements are G4 667 mhz (FireWire410) and G4 500 mhz (Audiophile).
I use PowerMac G4 400 mhz. Can I hook up any of these interface? Will it run anyway?
Maybe somebody has tried this stuff with G4 400mhz..

thanx in advance
Rczj
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lepetitmartien
post Sat 28 Jan 2006, 06:09
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First questions should be more: I will run OS 9 if not CPU upgraded, what interface can I use? Both can run in OS 9.2.2.

On the paper, there's no reason it should not work with your 400MHz CPU… IMHO, now… unsure.gif


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post Sat 28 Jan 2006, 08:32
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400 mhz... That is really, "seriously" slow! It is as slow as an old man with a bad foot going up the Metro/Subway/Underground stairs, in the cold, during morning Rush Hour, begging for money. No, really, 400mhz is slooooooooooooooow. I do remember in the Old Days seeing a 400mhz Mac and thinking: "One of these days, I'm gonna get one of those!" No, I never did purchase that 'dream machine'.

I don't remember any serious music made or played on them... I recall marvelling at the fact that music or sound could be made: "On a computer! Wow! But, the music was never more than samples, loops and thangs... Like Fast Food... Nothing substantial... OK, nice, interesting, ground breaking even, but, can't remember anything on 400mhz...

I do recall that, they were more expensive than a 2.5 badd ass Mac Daddy today... How old is it? 6-8 years old? Anyway, that was drug money well spent... I'm still alive and have Mac Daddy running flawlessly! Really, I am interested to hear what the Forum has to say about 400mhz. Remember, most important is your creation, originality, vibe and luck... Any one of them will result in you having people begging, paying you to try their fastest computer(s)... You'll have more computers than Shaq has sneakers...

If you can pull it off, please post your triumph... I will be selling , no trading my gear... for older, slower and cheaper gear... Might even be able to afford drugs again.
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post Sat 28 Jan 2006, 12:28
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Hey... I was using a Mac 2ci @ a really sloooow speed with protools back in the early 90's... you can still make good music... its not the machine but the man... or woman.

You just need the idea... and the computer is the tool, consider a ferrari and mini minor both will get you where you need to go if you know the route.

my humble advice is to focus on the music not the tools.

best to all Andru
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ruczaj
post Sat 28 Jan 2006, 13:10
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Hey, thanx a lot for answers, those ironical too...
I realise that old G4 it is not miracle...
But here was a misunderstanding: I didn't ask if I can do music on my "old man with a bad foot". I asked if G4/400 mhz would work with mentioned M-Audio stuff (my G4 runs under 10.2.8, not 9 by the way).
If I wasn't wrong, my idea was:
-I need only G4 to keep tracks of software sequencer on it (Reason)
-external M-Audio interface should overtake sound working out and to relieve main CPU

That's why I thought that CPU speed is not so primary thing, if card could take on sound.
I'm not computer geek, and I'm totally newbie in electronic music (until now; I've played other than virtual instruments smile.gif ).
cheers
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post Sat 28 Jan 2006, 16:48
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Hi, I had a 400mhz titanium, Forget mbox firewire, or anything new. The best match is a MOTU firewire drive. I successfully used an 828 with mine and as you probably know, forget installing tiger, but panther is OK, and max out your ram. As a matter of fact I could sell you my full ram and or Titanium cheap if you want. Good luck! Dave, 914-715-5588
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post Sun 29 Jan 2006, 14:03
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Ok, folks, thanx a lot fot all answers, advices etc.
I've checked Apple offer. I'm gonna to buy a Mac Mini and M-Audio FiWi 410. I'm a bit affraid of Tiger system working with my music setup (Reason, Oxygen, FiWi410 etc.). But I will rummage this gorum smile.gif

best to all
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post Mon 30 Jan 2006, 18:11
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Hi, MacMusicFolk:

Ain't nothin' wrong with a 400 MHz G3, baby! I'm using one with a MOTU 2408, DP 3.1 and other software. No it's not the latest, no it's not the fastest. But, as you say, it's a tool that in the right hands can make beautiful music. Just a few years ago, my buddy was using the same machine with ProTools to do work for CBS and ABC!

BTW, IMHO, X stinks, 9.2 rocks!
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post Mon 30 Jan 2006, 19:26
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Hello again,
I rushed with flying colors into forum. I had read some topics about Tiger and Firewire interfaces and I felt into despair. Is Tiger a huge computer virus or what?
Because I have got my G4 anyway, I will first buy an interface and I will see what hapens.
If slow, I'll buy one of these funny-but-powerful MacMini.

"BTW, IMHO, X stinks, 9.2 rocks!"

To make precise, Tiger stinks. I have Jaguar (rev 10.2.8) on G4-works excellent, never crashes (my G4 sometimes works few days continuously). My Powerbook runs under Panther (rev 10.3.9)-yeah, works good, sometimes goes crazy to dance with that f**ng multicolour rainbow ball. My sister has eMac under Tiger. Oohh, such a experience! It's gonna to chase Windows XP. Try to use apple-F keys to get to "Find file" panel. It couldn't be more unpleasant, more sophisticated, more unintuitive.

cheers to You all
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post Tue 31 Jan 2006, 00:32
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You might also consider looking out for second hand emac G4. But Im pretty newbie too, not getting my souncard till tomorrow, but so far, very demanding software works fine on my emac which is, like 733 speed . If its any consolation, there is always a lot of research involved in getting gear - fixing it to your budget- compatibility issues etc.

Im sure you ll do the grounwork, and find a solution that works for you.

Take care. Phil
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ruczaj
post Tue 31 Jan 2006, 15:34
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Hello,
It's me again (I hope bringing this topic to end, I don't want to bore)
I found something:

" In order to test the Audiophile’s usefulness with a laptop, and to retry the installation procedure, I did a limited test with an old titanium Powerbook. This configuration is not officially supported: my laptop is a 400 MHz G4, and the minimum requirements for Audiophile on a G4 is 667 MHz. On installing, the installer is a little more forgiving, telling me that only 500 MHz is required. It lets me install it anyway."
http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/?ART=240

So it works... I can start using (half of power) M-Audio card while longing for new Mac.

"If its any consolation, there is always a lot of research involved in getting gear - fixing it to your budget- compatibility issues etc."

That's it!! I shall to keep budget, because Mac-based setup is not the only expense to my music set. I play other equipment too (like bagpipes-cost a lot of money).
I'll think about second hand faster Mac too.

again, thanks to all for advices
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