Scammers Wading Thru Our Classifieds, Don't get swindled! Options

[lepetitmartien]

A few members have given us proofs that some scammers are trying to swindle people here. They usually contact sellers of items to propose them some serious material under false identities/nationalities.

The mechanism is this one: Mr Scam contacts you, want's to buy your stuff. He has some complicate story upon some money a guy must pay him for some time etc. The third guy will pay for your material and you should send the difference to the buyer.

I'm talking about a $700 transaction transforming into a $4000 one!

No need to tell in the end, you are short of $3300…

A news will be on MM very shortly, I have banned already a few avatars of these guys, if you fell something is fishy with a buyer/seller, be very cautious. Don't accept Western Union for exemple. A short list of do/don't will be available too.

In need ask me for counsel here.
These guys don't belong to our musical world

[michaeljt]

I just posted this for people to see as an example. I posted in the Getting Started Forum:

I've listed 2 items for sale on this site in the last month, and both times I've received this scam. Be on the look out for this crap:

"I want you to know that i very much intrested in the (sampler) which is $500 US and Once again mode paymentis going to be a Cashier's Check. You will sent by a Client of mine who has been woing me some amount and has said that he his only going pay me via Cashier's Check, So dedcided to send you the Check since the Check will be drawn from a US bank and i am from Isreal.The Check is in the Amount of $2,700 US. So when you recieve the Check all you have to do is to Cash the Check and forward the remaining funds to Shipping Company and here is there e-mail address which i will email you later..
As per Shipping i will handle the Shipping i have Shipping Company that will take care of that, When the Check has been recieved and cashed, all you need to do is to deduct your selling price and send the remaining excess fund to the Shippingg
Company via account i will provide you late . The Information to send the funds to them via Western Union will be given to you upon recieve of the Check. So for the little stress you will go thorugh sending the funds and Cashing it i will
compesate you with 100 US. MeanWhile, for the Check to get to you i will want you to provide me with the
following information, Which of course i will forward to my Client :
1) THE NAME YOU WANT THE CHECK TO BEAR
2) THE ADDRESS YOU WANT THE CHECK SENT TO AND
3) YOU PHONE NUMBERS(HOME,CELL AND WORK)

With this i will expect to hear from you soonest today with these informations.

Thanks and God Bless Marry Xmas and Happy New......
Mr Franklin.........."

Nothing new in terms of scams, except these guys keep targeting this site it seems. Honest people, be careful out there![I][B]

[lepetitmartien]

I came back of holidays 3 days ago, and right on the spot had to ban 2 more "members", so watch out!

As I said, if you have doubts, PM or email me with the emails you receive, the address they use and their login if you know it, I'd be able to tell you if you have any doubts, and sack the baddies

Be careful elsewhere on the net, the problem is common to other musical related sites unfortunately.

[beyaRecords]

I think the lesson here is there's no such thing as a free lunch! If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

[lepetitmartien]

Just banned one more…

- No Western Union!
- No "too good to be true" (which is in fact (and if you want another color, i have it
- No convoluted mail exchanges
- No money sent to Nigeria!!!
- Check the location of the guy! Last banned was a supposedly guy from the USA, asking for money transfer to Lagos, Nigeria thru WU, and was in fact physically located in the UK. uh oh…

[The Guitar God]

Just banned one more…

- No Western Union!
- No "too good to be true" (which is in fact (and if you want another color, i have it
- No convoluted mail exchanges
- No money sent to Nigeria!!!
- Check the location of the guy! Last banned was a supposedly guy from the USA, asking for money transfer to Lagos, Nigeria thru WU, and was in fact physically located in the UK. uh oh…

thanks for that

[lepetitmartien]

I copy below an exemple on the last try of one of our Nigerians, he's not in our databases so… but you'll get the idea, watch out!

French version (they shouldn't use automatic translators

Bonjour, je suis M. Nasacrown par citoyen de la France mais actuellement basé au Royaume-Uni avec ma famille. Je suis intéressé à acheter votre article à vendre et je dois savoir que votre dernier prix offert sur l'article et également la condition actuelle et également les pls envoient au PICS de l'article me bien. J'attends votre réponse aussitôt que possible. Et également je puis être atteint sur ce nombre mobile, me laisse sais que quand vous pouvez vente l'article pour moi. Le paiement vous sera effectué dehors par l'intermédiaire du chèque ou la traite bancaire de banque, espèrent que c'est correcte par vous. Nasacrown... Je puis être atteint sur ce nombre mobile...,+447040116548

English version:

Hello,
I am Mr Nasacrown a citizen of France but presently based in U.K with my family. I am interested in buying your item for sale and I need to know your last offering price on the item and also the present condition and also pls do send the pic! s of the item to me ok. I wait for your reply asap. And also i can be reached on this mobile number, let me know how soon you can sale the item for me. Payment will be made out to you via cheque or bank draft, hope this is okay by you. Nasacrown...
I can be reached on this mobile number....+447040116548

his email is: nasacrown_autos@epatra.com

[saskia]

And another attempt. This emailer who claims to be from Lagos wants to buy a 25$ item using a 5000$ cheque issued by someone who owes him money.
The emailer has sob story about a guy owing him lots of money, but who can only issue one cheque. He will instruct the guy to issue a cheque to my name, so can I please cash it, keep 25$, then give the rest of the money to the guy who brought the cheque and will take delivery of the item to send to the emailer from Lagos. How many colours of stupid do these scammers think we are?
The most annoying thing is that the emailer wrote back (quote: "do not think of it as a big cheque") even when I tell him I'm not interested in doing business this way!

[Fields]

Doesn't everyone wait until the cash is in your account/hand before sending your precious gear to a stranger?

Common sense?

Watch out folks!

[lepetitmartien]

Note that I'm receiving signals from members at least once/twice a week. The morons are marauding around…

At least one MM member has been scammed bad. So it's no fun at all.

[beyaRecords]

My experience on ebay is not good either. I purchased a copy of Nuendo 2 last week and upon trying to rgeister it was told by Steinberg UK that the product was a NFR (Not For Resale) and that they would not allow me to upgrade.

Thankfully I am getting my money back, but I have since come across another copy for purchase. This time I am taking the liberty of checking the serial number with Steinberg before any purchase is made, as to verify the validity of the product.

beya

[The Guitar God]

you should always check things like that first

[lepetitmartien]

On the actual description of the frauds:

FBI fraud schemes page

Our members in the USA should contact the FBI if they have been in contact with the morons, especially if they have started some more serious talk with them. One member is short of $2700 so it's no laughing matter.

In France, tell the the Brigade Financière in Paris, similar services are available at least in UK and Australia as far as I know. If you know the relevant services, tell us all!

Now if you use the classifieds, or if anyone contact you to propose such deal, PLEASE, keep the original email or PM coming thru macmusic. It'll help us to track the morons and ban them on the spot.

[lepetitmartien]

The morons are still around, just nuked one

Don't accept a check of a higher amount than necessary, refuse Western Union, use money escrows!!!
Any transaction should be simple, clear, with nothing including a third person (save a real money escrow service).

Pay attention to any detail!

If you have a doubt, ask me!

In private, send me: the PMs or emails (from the first), the email address or Member login. I am able to tell you if he's a moron or not.

[lepetitmartien]

Spam thru the forums by an ivory Coast scammer (used the mail system).

Don't even think upon answering him

Dearest,
Nice to meet you,I just want to use this chance and
ask for a favor and also to let you know that am
intrested to invest my fund in your country so if you
wish to help me out then do reply me back through my
private email address(mariam_musa2005@yahoo.com)or
for me to give you more info
regarding this opurtunity.
Kind Rgard Mariam Musa

Salut Cher,
Agréable de vous rencontrer, je veux juste utiliser cette chance et
demander une faveur et aussi vous faire part que sont intrested pour
investir mon fonds dans votre pays si si vous voulez m'aider de me
répondent alors en arrière par mon adresse électronique
privée(mariam_musa2005@yahoo.com)  pour moi pour vous donner plus de
renseignements quant Cet opurtunity.

Merci Mariam Musa

[lepetitmartien]

Note that I'm still killing on sight scammers accounts. So be careful! If you have a doubt, ask me!!! I have the means to tell where most members are in reality. (don't believe they don't scam elsewhere, they are all over the Net unfortunately).

I strongly advise people not to trade with people from Africa at the moment, and as I've said and repeated: no western Union, no huge check to balance etc.

[lepetitmartien]

A little update, I regularly ban the offenders (we find you anyway you %$*&#@) still. Now for the members here in the USA, there a new service to help you out of scamms in case you've been wronged:

IFCC webpage

Reason for edit: new URL

[lepetitmartien]

As I'm still on the prowl to ban our &#@$€$ scammers from MM…

I've received this this evening :

lepetitmartien,

aicham has sent you this email from http://www.macmusic.org/agora/forums/index.php.


Dearest,

Good a thing writing you, I hope today finds you well. I felt greatly impressed after reading your profile today. My name is jennifer kossa:

Please I have some thing to discuss with you and it is very important and urgent. I will like you to write me on my email address to enable us discuss in details. I really want to discuss this with you and we get to know each other more better. My E-mail is: jennifer_kossa1@yahoo.fr


I hope hearing from you soonest. I willl send you my picture as soon as you contact me in my email.(jennifer_kossa1@yahoo.fr)
Thanks for your understanding.

This is scam!

If you happen to receive something in the same idea, it's just a trick to lure at giving your email, as long as you don't answer your emails are safe, MM doesn't disclove them. This mail was sent by the MM server, not the scammer.

Don't answer, but signal me the offender (full mail or PM with login of the scammer)

Now back at banning his little comrades

[zenartist]

I just signed up our above scammer for free gay email porn

[The Guitar God]

Homophobe

[_Houston Texas, USA._]

Hey guys, My name is Frank and I work in the Finance Dept at a Used Car Dealer in Houston Texas, USA: I responded the the exact same message, but the the second one got a little too supecious. LOL

This e-mail came from: jrk_autos@keromail.com. from a Mr. Jill Rook. I checked the web site the e-mail is based on and it's a Hello Kitty e-mail, and I ask my self, what kind of grown man would conduct business from Hello Kitty E-mail? I went to Google.com and typed the phone number he/she is listing and this web page came up, with all this helpful information. Thanks for everything guys.

Hello Frank,

Thanks for the mail back and for your understanding. I appreciate it all from you and need you to know that i am much okay with all you have said concenring the car and also would like you to know that business is based on trust as i can not view or inspect the car before purchase because i am currently in u.k so therefore would be sending my shipper to come for the pick-up of the car at yoiur location as soon as payment has been made out to you. I have a client in the state that is owing me the total sum of $8,000 and i have contacted him to make out the payment to you for the car and for the shipping fee and he has agreed to do so. So pls i would like you to provide me with your full name and address and also your phone number so i can forward it to my client to remitte the check to you on my behalf. I have seen the car and i like it and ready to make the purchase asap for my son Junior as his b-day is coming up in 2 weeks time. As soon as the check gets to you, i need you to get it cashed at the cashing center or your bank and have them deduct the charges for cashing it for you and deduct the cost for your car which is $4350 and do me a favour by sending the rest of the balance $3,650 to my shipping company via westernunion money tarsnefr so they can come for the pick-up of the car as soon as possible. If this is okay by you, i need you to provide me with your details as requested so payment can be made out to you asap. Waiting for your mail back and pls keep other buyers away from the car. My greetings to your lovely family.

Mr Jill Rook.

+447040116548

[johnnyboy]

I just got some scam email, english version of the one posted above

[traderdude]

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Hi just found your site very nice
I have been getting tons of this kind of scamm and some new kinds lately as
well they say basic same thing in new ones that ship item then give tracking
number to either a service they claim to use or to USPS and really is nothing
but scamms to anyone that sells items online NEVER ever send any item
without first waiting for funds they payed you with to clear and i mean even
paypal i have had peeps pay my paypal and ends up was an account they
the Fake buyer stole and payed with but because i wait was not a problem
when real owner disputed claim i just immediatly gave a 100 percent refund
because i never sent item out in mail yet BIGGEST thing about selling is no
matter what way they the buyer pays wait plenty of time before you mail the
item wait plenty of time before you mail item out again wait plenty of time
before you mail item out and make sure you never mail anything until you
have payment in full and in your hand in your hand in your hand because
just because is in your account whether be bank or some service like paypal
they the bank or the service like paypal can reverse the money it happens
be carefull make sure money is in hand period.
check this one out it all started from some so-called girl in russia her story to
me hi i'm trina hayes and my dad died and i need some person in usa to help
get my 4.5 million out of a trust he put it in until i was 28 and now i'm 28 help me
please and you will get 10% of money for just doing this and holding money
until i arrive in USA to pick it up from you so please contact my diplomatic
friend she will give you all details .........last email i recieved is below and they
were both this trina and her diplomatic friend on yahoo mesenger just a talkin
and ah scammin away sad just plain sad and sadest part to me is the fact all these
scamms out there actually do get these maggits money from decent peoples thats
the sad part ..........read on ...... i have others but mostly i'm pretty quick on the delete
button not like savein any that junk on my puter but in future i will so as to share on here.....
read on ..........Attn:me
I'm sorry for my late response,we can expedite actions without further delays.
We are obliged to let you know that we are ready to further effect
shippment to your secured recieving address, as already
scheduled.Delivery under temporary immunity of"Corps Diplomatique"
will ensure all forms of tax exemption and enable us bypass all
custom checks. This will cost you US$1,150 in fees, shipment will be
delivered with diplomatic escort within 72hrs.I trust you will make
arrangements to settle this directly to the office of secure
services(Below) to enable us conclude with them and deliver your
shipment without inspection and further delays to your designated
address as scheduled.As per the Candies,it's a "diplomatic term" for
such package
Further to this therefore,we demand that you meet with the shipment
charges immediately to enable us further effect delivery of your
shipment,Upon your acknowledgement on this matter, we shall advise you
on the fastest means of recieving this funds from you so as not to
deter our delivery schedules.You are to make the payment through
WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER with the name and address below. I would
see to making sure you get the best.Sorry for whatever stress this
has put you through,as we are out to render to you our professional
touch of service.
So kindly reconfirm your secured recieving address once we get your compliance,shipment
will take effect
Name and address for the handling charges:
NAME: James Mike
ADDRESS: London,UK
Kindly forward to me the payment information as thus" SENDERS
NAME,MTCN NUMBER.Western Union Only
WITH KINDEST REGARDS & RESPECTS,
SINCERELY,
EL SY(MME)
Return-path: <secure.logistics.company@diplomats.com>
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From: "SECURE LOGISTICS COMPANY" <secure.logistics.company@diplomats.com>
To: me [Don't post your email in threads please LPM]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:41:15 -0500
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Properties of original email that was sent to me above.

[lepetitmartien]

Well, I searched, if this guy is around, it's not under this identity. Post here ONLY scammers using MacMusic or 440Forums PM or secure email (they don't have your email until you answer), or classifieds, and if available, give us their login here. I won't details the tools I use for obvious reasons but I need some material to work on… and sometimes I fail…

Scammers are banned on the spot by either me or Babaille, in charge of the classifieds.

[traderdude]

Well, I searched, if this guy is around, it's not under this identity. Post here ONLY scammers using MacMusic or 440Forums PM or secure email (they don't have your email until you answer), or classifieds, and if available, give us their login here. I won't details the tools I use for obvious reasons but I need some material to work on… and sometimes I fail…

Scammers are banned on the spot by either me or Babaille, in charge of the classifieds.

[traderdude]

Here is copy of one i have been getting the most first they the Fake buyer sends email to me
says they are paying thru paypal then i get this fake email from paypal saying is ok to ship
item LOL what a bunch of clowns these scammers are read on ......................

Hello Me,
Thanks for your reply.I will be making the payment through Paypal coz it's fast and secure.Also, i want you to include all the accessaries.Kindly inform me if you receive any payment notification from them concerning the payment.Thanks Andrea

properties of above email below:
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrea Onuogu <andreareinz4eva@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dell Laptop Computer New Condition 30GB - $1200
To: me <traderdude@brtc.net>
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copy of fake message from paypal below:
"Paypal Customercare" <pay_pal_paynotification@accountant.com>
*****PAYPAL PAYMENT APPROVED*****
Order Status: APPROVED
Auction Payments Order Available AVAILABLE
Payment Placed 07/22/2006
Order Status Order Available
Money Order Approved Order Confirmed
Billing Information:
Status: Processed successfully
Card Type MasterCard
Card Number 5***********5643
Exp. Date 9/2008
Name on Card ANDREA ONUOGU
Street Address 4,wild court
City, State, Zip osceola, PA, 16942
Country USA
Services Purchased:
ItemAmount $1200
Shipping Fee $ 150
Total Amount posted to card $ 1350
Item Unit 1 unit
Purchased Item Information Craigslist


Item description Dell Laptop Computer New Condition 30GB
Using Paypal for Auction Purchases

Seller Information Use to pay for on-line purchases, the companies / individuals you buy from never see your credit card number. This is an important security feature and certainly is better than having your credit card number transmitted all over the Internet. PayPal is secure, and they screen their merchant accounts very closely.
Name my name was here
Street address
City, State, Zip
Country U.S.A.
Phone Number
Email
****NOTE**** BELOW IS THE BUYER SHIPPING INFORMATION :
BUYER SHIPPING INFORMATION:
Name : Godwin Onuogu
Address : c/o Mr.Jonathan Jwaneri. Fan milk Plc.Eleyele Industrial layout.Ibadan,Oyo State.
Zip code : 23402
Country : Nigeria
BUYER SHIPPING OPTIONS :
YOU CAN USE ANY OF THIS COURRIER COMPANY'S FOR THE SHIPPING.
================================================================================
===

***ATTENTION***
The order has been APPROVED, you CAN NOW ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. You are expected to make the shipment with 48 hours of recieving this Payment Approval Notification and get back to our Costumer/Technical Dept. with the tracking number for Shippment Verification.
***PLEASE NOTE***
The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched or get to your resident until the shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect both seller and buyer interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.
****PLEASE NOTE***
Due to the fact that PAYPAL processes thousands of orders daily, paypal RECOMMENDS contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly. This ensures speedy verification of shipment as well as prompt dispatch the Money OrderSM. Send shippment tracking details to pay_pal_paynotification@accountant.com.
*CUSTOMER SUPPORT*
If you have any questions, Please feel free to contact the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order at : pay_pal_paynotification@accountant.com.
The "official" PayPal corporate offices are at:

303 Bryant Street
Mountain View, California 94041
Thank you for using PAYPAL® We look forward to serving your online auction payment needs better in the future.


Sad I have been getting about 10 a day for the last week now just sad
wish someone would buy me a round trip ticket to nigeria because
i would sure like to go on a hunting trip to that blank of a country.

[traderdude]

More from same fake buyers read on ................................
I'm happy to inform you that i have successfully made the payment for the item i bought from you through Paypal and the money has been deducted from my Paypal account.So you can now go ahead with the shipping.I want you to make the shipping through Express Mail Service(EMS).Kindly reply me if you receive any payment notification concerning the payment for the item i bought from you.Below is the shipping address:
Name: Godwin Onuogu
Address:c/o.Mr Jonathan Nwaneri.Fan Milk Plc, Eleyele Indusrial layout.
City:Ibadan
State: Oyo
Zip-code: 23402
Country: Nigeria.
Thanks and God bless you as you respond to this mail.
Andrea
Dear Valued Customer (my name was here)
We are pleased to inform that our client (Mrs.Andrea Onuogu) has successfully made the payment of the item she bought from you through PAYPAL. We are here to inform you that you can now ship out the item she paid for and you should also send us the Tracking Number and the courier service used to this customercare:(pay_pal_paynotification@accountant.com) for verification purpose.
Once we get this, your account will be accessed immediately and the money will be reflected in your Paypal account.You have nothing to fear of because we have deducted your money from our client's Paypal account.Thanks and waiting for your fast responce to this mail.

WARNING: PLEASE, DO NOT SEND THE TRACKING NUMBER TO THE BUYER. THIS IS TO PREVENT FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES AT THE END OF TRANSACTION.
Thanks For Using Paypal.
Paypal Management.

Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:17:54 -0500
Subject: PAYPAL PAYMENT CONFIRMATION

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Dear my name was here
Mary James just sent you money with PayPal.
Mary James is a Verified buyer.
Payment Details
Transaction ID: 6746752682679804N
Total Shipping: $254.00 USD
Total Item: $1426.00 USD
Item/Name: Dell Laptop Computer New Condition.
Note: Payment for Dell Laptop Computer New Condition.
Buyer: Mary James Business Information Business: Mary James.
Delivery Information
Address: John Williams,
131 Tower Hamlets Road,
London,
E7 9DD
United Kingdom.
Address Status: Confirmed
Order Status And Informations:
Order Number: N/A
Auction Payments Order Available
Order Placed July 24/07/2006
Order Status Available
PayPal Approval Payment Confirmed
Billing Information:
Status: Processed Successfully
Card Type MasterCard
Card Number 5***********5643
Exp. Date 9/2008
Name on Card Mary James
Service Purchased: Online Payment
Total Amount posted to card $2450.00 USD
Auction Payments Fee $15.00 USD
Total Amount Deducted $1680.00 USD
Ship USPS
Purchased Item Information
Auction site auctions.yahoo.com
Item Description Dell Laptop Computer New Condition.
Item Number 102791195
Seller Information:
Name my name was here
Country. United State
Email. my email was here
***ATTENTION***
This email confirms that you have been paid by Mary James (marjzed@yahoo.com) $1680.00 USD using PayPal,which will be transfered into your account after we have received the shipment tracking number from you for verification purpose.

This order has been APPROVED, you CAN NOW ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Approval Notification and get back to our Customer/Technical Dept. with the tracking number for Shipment Verification.You are not expected in any circumstances to send the tracking number to the buyer,get back to us with the shipment tracking number in order to transfer your payment in your account immediately.
This is highly recommended because most sellers do not ship out items after which the buyer has made payment.
kindly adhere to this policy,we sincerely apologise for any inconviences.

Due to the fact that PayPal processes thousands of orders daily, PayPal Recommends contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly. Send Your Replies And Shipment Details To The Verification Department For Further Inquiries. Email:- payp_customercare@accountant.com
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Then another one ....................
jacky smith" <chinwendusmith@yahoo.com
prefer to make the payment via Money Order....immediately you receive the paymrnt confirmation get back to me for the shipping lable and invoice..
Thanks
Dear my name was here,
Congratulations! The money order placed by the buyer of your item "Jacky Williams" to have a Western Union® branded Money OrderSM $450.00 sent to you as payment for item of (Dell Laptop,PANASONIC CamCorder,Diamond Ring) below:
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*FINANCIAL DETAILS*
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AUCTION SITE : Craigslist
ITEM DESCRIPTION : Dell Laptop,PANASONIC CamCorder,Diamond Ring
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TOTAL : $1500.00
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WESTERN UNION ® MONEY ORDER ONLINE PAYMENT
Seller's Information:
The Money OrderSM will be delivered to your contact information below, Please verify that the name and address (As entered by the buyer) are correct:
Order Confirmed Date : 24TH JULY 2006
Time of Confirmation : 10:30Hrs
E-mail Address: @yahoo.com
Seller's Information:
Name : had my name here
Address :
City :
State : Zipcode :
Country : USA.
Shipping estimated date for these item: JULY,24,2006
Dell Laptop,PANASONIC CamCorder,Diamond Ring
$1500.00
***ATTENTION***
The order has been APPROVED, you CAN now ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. Due to complaints from our customers of seller refusing to ship out item after payment has been recieved and buyer cancelling payment after item has been shipped, we have resolved that payment would not be delivered until we have verified that the item has been transferred to buyer's courier service for shipment.You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Confirmation Notification and contact our Costumer/Technical Dept. with the tracking number for Shipment Verification.

If the buyer has requested that the item be sent to any address other than the one provided above, please DO NOT ship the item and notify us immediately at our representative at : orderactioninfi@consultant.com
***PLEASE NOTE***
Due to the fact that Western Union processes thousands of orders daily, We therefore RECOMMEND contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly. This ensures speedy verification of shipment as well as prompt dispatch of Money OrderSM. Send shipment tracking details to orderactioninfo@consultant.com
Once shipment has been verified, You will receive a " ORDER DISPATCHED" email from Western Union informing you that the Money OrderSM has been dispatched . You will have to send the shipment tracking number of the item to us for verification the same day you ship it out. This order has been approved and we will send to the above address payment in 3-5 business day.You CAN NOW send the items to the buyer now .
Thank you for using Western Union Services:
Sincerely, Western Union Auction Payments.
**Accountant**
WESTERN UNION AUCTION PAYMENT MONEY ORDER IS SUPPORTED BY.

and they just keep coming has been so bad i have had to pull all my ads
off just really stinks now i cannot sell anything because there just
is no place left to sell online has just been taken over by scammers

[Eliezer]

I too have met up with these same scammers on a different audio classifieds webpage. (They wouldn't even mention the scammer problem on their website, so I don't intend to publicize them here!)

Nevertheless, the names of the two scammers who contacted me were Noble Store and Peter Wreth. Both claimed to be from England. Store wanted me to ship $100 worth of audio tape to Nigeria for $9000 (!) and Peter wanted to send me $2000 and then have me give $1800 to his "agent", who would pick up the tape at my house.

Peter Wreth's email is < aidanbutler08@hotmail.com > and Noble Store's is < noblestorelimited@yahoo.com >

The odd deals weren't offered at the beginning, BTW. I merely asked them a few questions about audio and could easily see that they were not of our field.

I have no way of knowing if they work together, or are the same person, or will ever use those names or email addresses again, but I DID want to share this information with all of you..

[lepetitmartien]

Did my search. They don't seem to be registered here, with these identities at least.

Now keep me informed of any scammer around thru classifieds (not regular spam, there's just too many), here or else. It's good to check screwers that have not yet tried to scam here. (sigh)

[lepetitmartien]

I found this site about fraud, in English, note the kind of demo they prepare is illegal. Lots of links of use in case you have an issue or a doubt.

Now they give the persons to contact when you're screwed in UK: the Metropolitan Police. They can be reached at:

fraud.alert [remove this and replace by an @) met.police.uk

UK Met police website

[brybon]

I too have met up with these same scammers on a different audio classifieds webpage. (They wouldn't even mention the scammer problem on their website, so I don't intend to publicize them here!)

Nevertheless, the names of the two scammers who contacted me were Noble Store and Peter Wreth. Both claimed to be from England. Store wanted me to ship $100 worth of audio tape to Nigeria for $9000 (!) and Peter wanted to send me $2000 and then have me give $1800 to his "agent", who would pick up the tape at my house.

Peter Wreth's email is < aidanbutler08@hotmail.com > and Noble Store's is < noblestorelimited@yahoo.com >

The odd deals weren't offered at the beginning, BTW. I merely asked them a few questions about audio and could easily see that they were not of our field.

I have no way of knowing if they work together, or are the same person, or will ever use those names or email addresses again, but I DID want to share this information with all of you..

"Peter Wreth" just tried to buy my BMW and wants it shipped to England! Definately watch out for this one! He also signs email with both Peter and Aidan. My Bank is tracking the cashier's check that he sent and then forwarding it on to the FBI. Just thought I would chime in!

[lepetitmartien]

Thanks for the hints

[lepetitmartien]

Note for everyone

we just banned a member using two IDs here: silvrmbr and nsgoit

He tries to sell a neumann, you send the money and no more answers. If you have done so a 2 of our members, please contact your police service in charge of this!
We keep the records we have for the police if need be.

Please : no direct deposit beyond small sums. Use a money escrow system! No money transfers, no paypal, no checks! This way you can't be stollen.

[lepetitmartien]

I've just made a blog post (my first) to sum up what to check, what to do, where to go… to be extended, translated.

[Mark Owen]

Hi,

This scammer's pretty careless so I don't think the police will have too much trouble picking him up.

He was using silvrmbr (Silver Member) and nsgoit (Noise Gate) advertising Neumann U87 vintage, claiming it was used only for guitar.

Here are the details he provided in case he tries it out again:

Name : CEDRIC FLOCH
Address: 42 rue saint pierre 26200 Montélimar FRANCE
Phone: +33 (0)6 88 05 99 46
Bank Name : CAISSE D' EPARGNE

Stick with the echrow!

[lepetitmartien]

I've just banned other identities of him, no classifieds linked to them seemingly.

[lepetitmartien]

He's banned under the logins:

silvrmbr
southerndeathstyle
stangelox
amazzic
nsgoit
zikornus
vintolin
griinlite
wendygogone

If any of you have been trading with these, please contact me ASAP. We're on the watch as to prevent him to do more harm, and will do what we can to learn him not to f… up with our members.

[lepetitmartien]

Just added new logins to the list above. We have already 3 members swindled, be very careful: no money transfer !!!!!!