 M-audio Fw 410 - Positive Reviews?? Anyone??, FW 410 or MKII....no contest?? |
  Thu 11 Dec 2003, 20:08
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 26-Nov 03 From: New York - US Member No.: 29,715  |
hey-
i'm running Logic on a 1G G4 Powerbook w/ Panther....and it's time to take the next step. I've read some pretty sketchy stuff all over about the M-Audio Firewire 410....I'm wondering if anyone out there has anything good to say about it?? I'm leaning towards biting the bullet and picking up the MKII 828 - but I just wanted to know if anyone had any good experiences with the FW410 before I completely empty my wallet. thanks much, krs |
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Fri 12 Dec 2003, 04:21
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 22-Nov 01 From: Cambridge Member No.: 2,417 |
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Fri 12 Dec 2003, 06:30
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 26-Nov 03 From: New York - US Member No.: 29,715 |
thanks J....
i appreciate the link - definately good stuff. (i actually didn't even know about that site - so....even better) i think i'm gonna keep saving.....828 here i come. krsboz |
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Fri 12 Dec 2003, 16:03
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 Maniac Member  Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 17-May 02 From: Broughton Member No.: 4,705 |
Yes, as George Orwell might have put it if they'd had internet forums when he were lad, 828 good, 410 bad.
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Fri 12 Dec 2003, 17:46
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 13-Sep 03 From: - US Member No.: 24,676 |
krsboz-
i'm keeping an eye on this puppy. It's the same price as the 410 with more six ins (two 1/4", two xlr which can also go 1/4", and two spdif) and ten outs and 32 channels of midi. best of all: it's not an m-audio product! i even like that it's not MOTU because although the 828 is a standard for mobile audio, i've been on the sh!t end of the whole 2408 osx driver debacle and anyway the 828 is bigger than i want to lug to gigs and more i/o than i'll ever need. go QUATA-fire! (hope drivers don't suck.. anybody have experience with egosys drivers?) -------------------- Kit: Dual Ghz G4, Vaio 2.6ghz GRV670 notebook. Software: Reaktor, Reason, Ableton Live. Leanings: Laptop performance, jazz guitar, singing.
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Sat 13 Dec 2003, 07:10
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
The Egosys doesn't seem to have any balanced inputs or outputs. The inputs are unbalanced RCA and the outputs are rca too, and are those 1/4 inch stereo outputs for outputs 5-8? I think that anyone considering this should re-read topics regarding balanced v. unbalanced connections before making a decision.
Just my 2 cents Scott |
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Sat 13 Dec 2003, 12:19
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 Moderator  Group: Team Posts: 370 Joined: 19-Mar 03 From: Umeå - SE Member No.: 14,645 |
The Motu-828 MK-II, is definitely a good piece of gear very versatile.
Have 828 MK-I my self and I am very satified with it. (I would have liked to have the cue-mix capabilities from the MK-II.) The pre-amplifiers in the 828 are quite decent too. You can use the 828-MK-II as a standalone mixer as well. Cheers: Dixiechicken -------------------- ==================
Oh my god it's full of stars… --------------------------------------------------- Mac-G5-2x.2.0, OS-X 10.5.1, 250/200Gb HD - 7.0Gb ram DP-5.13, Motu 828 MK-II, MTP AV Usb, ltst drvs, Kurzweil-2000, EPS-16, Proteus-2000, Yamaha 01V Emes Kobalt monitors ================================ |
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Sat 13 Dec 2003, 18:48
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 13-Sep 03 From: - US Member No.: 24,676 |
swilder, what's at issue then regarding the unballanced inputs? i thought i'd finally found the soundcard for my laptop but now the waters are muddy again or whatever. ::sigh::
-------------------- Kit: Dual Ghz G4, Vaio 2.6ghz GRV670 notebook. Software: Reaktor, Reason, Ableton Live. Leanings: Laptop performance, jazz guitar, singing.
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Mon 15 Dec 2003, 01:11
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 Maniac Member Group: Members Posts: 799 Joined: 24-Mar 02 From: Entre-Deux-Mers - FR Member No.: 3,984 |
Regarding the Quata etc series from egosystems, HarmonyCentral says "The flagship product of the series is the HexaFire ($999.99 US MSRP), a 16-In/16-Out box housed in a 2 rack space unit. The front panel features 8 balanced mic preamps."
They didn't mention balanced for the other two in the series, but maybe they are  Just checked on the sound & music site, and for the Egosystems Wamirack 192X they also say • 4 Balanced adjustable Line/Mic inputs (XLR Connector) • 8 Channel Analog Outputs: • 8 Balanced +4dBu Line Outputs (1/4" TRS Phone) • 2 Balanced +4dBu Line Outputs (XLR Connector) so I suppose they do know how to balance. Still, I believe the quata's not out yet so we'll have to see. This post has been edited by Presto: Mon 15 Dec 2003, 01:26 -------------------- Without shit, we wouldn't be here ;)
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Mon 15 Dec 2003, 01:24
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
In a word:
Noise If you going to run wires more than 5 to 10 feet, balanced wires and connectors are a must to keep things quiet. If you record two or three tracks with a little hum or hiss, it might not be that noticable. But once that track counts gets up a little more, all that extra noise can really ruin a mix. You have to do so much eq and noise reduction, that the whole mix sounds flat at lifeless. Just my 2 cents Scott |
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