Programming & Processing Drums Options

[Funkfish]

So drums have always challenged me, usually in programming them, and while I still have issues I've been getting better at it but any advice on that I'd still appreciate.

Latelly the thing that's been bothering me is the SOUND of my drums, I use mainly BFD for my drums and whiile they sound great, they sound TOO real, the kinda music I make is kinda like slower speed Drum n Bass and Breaks, I really like how the drums sound on all of Pendullums records but yet I never can get anywhere near it, I know alot of people say its all about the sample, so maybe someone knows a good library of drum sounds? Basicaly here are my questions.

1. In general, what would you reccomend to get that nice breaks/DnB drum sound

2. What kind of processing would you reccomend me to do too BFD to get it to sound like that, and not as "real"

3. I've talked to alot of people who make this stuff and they swear by NI's Battery any particular reason??

4. I've also heard that people use an envelope to control eq's for their drums, why is that? and how does it differ from dynamic EQ (ala Sonalksis)

thanks so much!
Fish

[mortalengines]

Usually with either hip hop, D&B, etc, those guys will spend alot of time getting good sounds (often pulled from LPs...ie vinyl) & proceed to cut them up into "kits" (ie "kicks", "snares" & whatnot) & then layer them (often 2 to 3 different sampled kick drums will make up a single kick) as a finished product & the eq will come in handy at this point to isolate different qualities of each individual kick without muddying up the sound. Compression comes in handy on your individual kicks & snares as well. I don't have Battery but I understand that it is a really good value for programming. I use Reason for drum programming & rex files that can be chopped up & will often layer 2 Redrums & a DR Rex player or two on top of that & then rewire into Ableton for further jacking with plugs & automation. I like the Redrum because I generally start from wierd drones or melodies & try to write beats around them & I am kind of a "tard" when it comes to drum beats. Redrum is pretty dang easy to work with.

This post has been edited by mortalengines: Sat 13 May 2006, 01:48