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> Bouncing With Protools - Inaudible Track Inserts, Uanble to bounce and external inserts
i-mox
post Thu 18 Mar 2004, 22:08
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Hey There

I am running Protools 5.11 (Digi001) on OS9 and i have recently upgraded my studio setup with a great external mixer.

Now - to use this mixer, i am running my mix into the first 8 channels of the mixer, using the mixers 8 subgroups to return into protools.

OK - let me explain it a bit better. I have a great sounding kickdrum, but want to use the EQ of my mixer. I choose to send the signal into a mixer channel, by using an insert in protools, returning the signal through the mixers subgroups, so that the track is still audible in protools, and it really is audible. But however, when i try to bounce the track, my great sounding kickdrum is gone - not existing in the mix..
I suppose this goes for other external insert (for instance outboard compressor and so on) - Does anyone know how to fix this quite annoying problem? I really do want to bounce some of my tracks pretty soon :-)

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post Thu 18 Mar 2004, 22:29
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I think you might need to return it on a different track and actually record the output back in from your mixer. I will test that on my 001 (I'm using 6.2.3 on OS X), but I'm fairly sure that's how you do it. I don't think a straight bounce brings in audio from the insert.

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post Thu 18 Mar 2004, 22:33
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I had a feeling that it would be that way, but it just puzzles me..

I mean, the track is audible, through outputs 1/2, so it seems pretty strange that it does not get bounced too..

My solution at the moment is to record all of the tracks in to a new stereo track, and then bounce that track, this however is quite a workaround - also re-recording the tracks, when using an insert must be said to be a workaround - but please let me know if your setup acts differntly than mine.
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post Mon 29 Mar 2004, 10:05
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the reason for this is that bounce in protools is still essentially an offline process even though it occurs in real time. it only bounces the data that exists not an acoustic audio signal. because of this external effects will not be added to the bounce mix as they don't exist in protools but only in your post protools signal.
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i-mox
post Tue 30 Mar 2004, 15:38
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Damn.. But that ofcourse explains why my outboard effects aren't bounced!

Thanks very much for the reply.
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