MacMusic.org  |  PcMusic.org  |  440Software  |  440Forums.com  |  440Tv  |  Zicos.com  |  AudioLexic.org
Loading... visitors connected
Welcome Guest
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Keyboard Specifications, Dynamic or velocity sensitive
p-p-h
post Sat 21 Feb 2004, 12:37
Post #1


Newbie


Group: Members
Posts: 4
Joined: 21-Feb 04
From: - FR
Member No.: 36,427




Hi,

Could someone explain me the difference between
dynamic keybords and velocity sensitive keyboard.
I'm starting music with computer and intend to buy
an USB keyboard with my computer.

Thanks for any clue

PPH
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
dixiechicken
post Sun 22 Feb 2004, 17:25
Post #2


Moderator
Group Icon

Group: Team
Posts: 370
Joined: 19-Mar 03
From: Umeå - SE
Member No.: 14,645




Not really!
However most keaybords of decent quality these days are velocity-sensitive
(As opposed to a typical hammond organ keyboard or old synthesizers)

Velocity sensitive means that the keyboard generates a midi-number depending on HOW HARD you hit the keys.
( the harder the hit - the higher the velocity)
Hardest hit generates midi-number 127 - the softest possible hit should generate midi-number 1. Giving you in theory access to 127 dynamic levels.

That is however also dependent upon IF - your soundmodule ic capable of receiving these midi-numbers and have sampled/generated sounds that through the internal circuitry of your soundmodule can process the sound volume properly.

In theory at least I think - most people would argue that a trained concert pianist on good quality conert piano (Bösendorfer or similar) is the ultimate tools to achieve a near unlimited number dynamic nuances.(levels)

The keyboard on grand concert piano is of course velocity sensitive.

Hope this clear up part of your question

Cheers: Dixiechicken


--------------------
==================
Oh my god it's full of stars…
---------------------------------------------------
Mac-G5-2x.2.0, OS-X 10.5.1, 250/200Gb HD - 7.0Gb ram
DP-5.13, Motu 828 MK-II, MTP AV Usb, ltst drvs,
Kurzweil-2000, EPS-16, Proteus-2000, Yamaha 01V
Emes Kobalt monitors
================================
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lepetitmartien
post Mon 23 Feb 2004, 00:42
Post #3


Moderator In Chief (MIC)
Group Icon

Group: Editors
Posts: 15,189
Joined: 23-Dec 01
From: Paris - FR
Member No.: 2,758




After some explanations in the FR forum… basically "dynamic" is the marketing babble at M-audio for an equivalent of pressure sensitive. which is roughly equivalent to velocity sensitive but not quite.


--------------------
Our Classifeds • Nos petites annoncesTerms Of Service / Conditions d'UtilisationForum Rules / Règles des ForumsMacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
BOING BUMM TSCHAK PENG! Are you musician enough to write in our Wiki?
BOING BUMM TSCHAK ZZZZZZZZZZZOING! Êtes-vous assez musicien pour écrire dans le Wiki?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
dixiechicken
post Mon 23 Feb 2004, 18:41
Post #4


Moderator
Group Icon

Group: Team
Posts: 370
Joined: 19-Mar 03
From: Umeå - SE
Member No.: 14,645




My old EPS-sampler w keyboard is both velocity and pressure sensitive.

With heavy handed playing I get a loud sound, if I hit a key and keep it down and apply some pressure, the "LFO" kicks in and give the triggered sound a vibrato - as an example.
The pressure can be used for opening/closing the envelopes or what ever.

The really big thing with the Ensoniq:s pressure sensivity is -
that the indvidual pressed keys that make up a chord are INDVIDUALLY sensitive.

I.e: if I hit a C-major chord with my right hand - C-E-G - and apply pressure only with my right little finger - ONLY the G-note will get the vibrato effect.
Usually the pressure is applied to all notes that are played even if pressure is ONLY applied to ONE key.

The above is perhaps the most common use for this midi-implementation, velocity is for volume and pressure is for effects.

Cheers: Dixiechicken


--------------------
==================
Oh my god it's full of stars…
---------------------------------------------------
Mac-G5-2x.2.0, OS-X 10.5.1, 250/200Gb HD - 7.0Gb ram
DP-5.13, Motu 828 MK-II, MTP AV Usb, ltst drvs,
Kurzweil-2000, EPS-16, Proteus-2000, Yamaha 01V
Emes Kobalt monitors
================================
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lepetitmartien
post Tue 24 Feb 2004, 05:21
Post #5


Moderator In Chief (MIC)
Group Icon

Group: Editors
Posts: 15,189
Joined: 23-Dec 01
From: Paris - FR
Member No.: 2,758




What I was implying is you can deduce speed (velocity) from pressure, but pressure information AFTER the trig of a note is Aftertouch… Here, it's limited to the first pressure so velocity in the end and no aftertouch. sad.gif

You just happen to have a great keyboard wink.gif


--------------------
Our Classifeds • Nos petites annoncesTerms Of Service / Conditions d'UtilisationForum Rules / Règles des ForumsMacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
BOING BUMM TSCHAK PENG! Are you musician enough to write in our Wiki?
BOING BUMM TSCHAK ZZZZZZZZZZZOING! Êtes-vous assez musicien pour écrire dans le Wiki?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
dixiechicken
post Wed 25 Feb 2004, 17:59
Post #6


Moderator
Group Icon

Group: Team
Posts: 370
Joined: 19-Mar 03
From: Umeå - SE
Member No.: 14,645




QUOTE
You just happen to have a great keyboard


Dont I just know it! smile.gif

Cheers: Dixiechicken


--------------------
==================
Oh my god it's full of stars…
---------------------------------------------------
Mac-G5-2x.2.0, OS-X 10.5.1, 250/200Gb HD - 7.0Gb ram
DP-5.13, Motu 828 MK-II, MTP AV Usb, ltst drvs,
Kurzweil-2000, EPS-16, Proteus-2000, Yamaha 01V
Emes Kobalt monitors
================================
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version - Sat 30 Nov 2024, 05:44
- © MacMusic 1997-2008