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post Sun 13 Jan 2008, 12:16
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What is the best recommended place to download music for mac? itunes is just too expensive even though it will be so convienent I just can't pay it. Is there anything better than Limewire? Is there anything that has a flat monthly rate or anything? This is so annoying.


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post Sun 13 Jan 2008, 16:07
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So, first, you do realize that Limewire or any other peer to peer service is theft. And that the people on this very forum where you are asking for help are the ones that you might be stealing from. If that is not clear, then let's hope it is now.

There are sites that have music that artists put their music on that is free. You can check Creative Commons, but the purpose is to share the music in an artistic form, i.e., podcasting, web radio , etc. Also, the Podsafe Music Network, but again, not a file sharing service.

As far as iTunes being too expensive @ 99¢ per track or even $7.99 and up for whole albums, your being on this site should mean that you are an artist, or musician, or engineer, or producer, or fan. If those prices are too expensive, what do you think a good price for someone's effort is?

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post Mon 14 Jan 2008, 05:54
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deaconblue

{Posted Yesterday, 04:07 PM
So, first, you do realize that Limewire or any other peer to peer service is theft. And that the people on this very forum where you are asking for help are the ones that you might be stealing from. If that is not clear, then let's hope it is now.}


Yo, deaconblue,
Wish I had your class and style. My message would have been filled with many "Nasty and Dirty Remarks".

As for "better"... Sigh...
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post Mon 14 Jan 2008, 13:27
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Seems to me that a lot of music industry people put their promo cds up on peer to peer sites so that djs etc can download the tracks and then promote them through dances, parties and clubs in the hope that peeps will then want to buy a copy. It's a way of getting your music out there.
You can put your head in the sand or get mad but it is still gonna happen, It is human nature to want to get something for nothing ( which is entropically impossible). Just watch out for your karma!
I notice that this site is advertising Wiretap Studio, what do you think that it's for other than copying/recording music from the internet?
Check out; http://magesy.ws/.

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post Mon 14 Jan 2008, 15:02
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smile.gif checkout ..drumbeat i have been with the for over 4 yrs and i get tons of songs ..you must pay a membership for a yr and then you can download all day long but i believe you must have at least 300 songs in your library..its all about sharing you can find songs from the 1800's to the present..google drumbeat..and see for yourself. good luck
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post Mon 14 Jan 2008, 17:41
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QUOTE (better @ Sun 13 Jan 2008, 11:16) *
What is the best recommended place to download music for mac? itunes is just too expensive even though it will be so convienent I just can't pay it. Is there anything better than Limewire? Is there anything that has a flat monthly rate or anything? This is so annoying.

People is too dammed spoiled these days... """Kids are getting fat playing video games""
when I was a kid there was this New song by Zep I wanted so bad it was not on any Album yet So I bought the 45. I got 2 songs for $1.49 that was 1978.
So 99 cents per song is Not Bad in 2008.
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post Tue 15 Jan 2008, 01:40
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This all depends on how picky you are as well. www.epitonic.com has free AUTHORIZED downloads but often it is from bands you have never heard of. There are quite a few more popular bands who will also release mp3s for free on the site. Alot of sites are on a subscription basis (Napster is one of them) and that doesn't sound like a bad idea either.
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post Tue 15 Jan 2008, 07:56
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jimdubpram
{Seems to me that a lot of music industry people put their promo cds up on peer to peer sites so that djs etc can download the tracks and then promote them through dances, parties and clubs in the hope that peeps will then want to buy a copy. It's a way of getting your music out there.
You can put your head in the sand or get mad but it is still gonna happen, It is human nature to want to get something for nothing ( which is entropically impossible). Just watch out for your karma! }

jimdubpram, you know I love ya son, but... Do you hear yourself? music industry people. Hell, if I was making 10 million bucks selling CD's, getting Airplay Royalties and Touring I would be generous too. If you are refering to Prince, who was once a true Badd Ass, when he was working with his cousin (The real SOURCE of all Princes hits). Prince had to GIVE that tired, recycled, stolen, crap he is doing today away for free... It still aint selling. When was the last time you heard Prince on the Radio? Right...

Not everyone wants something for free, some, me for one, has learned that there is no such thing as something for nothing. How can you mention Karma and Stealing in the same breath? The most ABSURD thing I have heard this year.

Plus, why, would someone buy music if PEER TO PEER groups give it away? It becomes of no value.

I have paid my dues over many years learning and lifting my musical skills worked hard for my gear, hard and software. Why should I give it away FREE? If I was a non-musician, I guess I would be happy for anyone to listen, but non musicians music always sucks... You can't get magic from tragic. It is a Karma Thang.
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post Tue 15 Jan 2008, 16:00
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wow!

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Seems to me that a lot of music industry people put their promo cds up on peer to peer sites so that djs etc can download the tracks and then promote them through dances, parties and clubs in the hope that peeps will then want to buy a copy. It's a way of getting your music out there.
You can put your head in the sand or get mad but it is still gonna happen, It is human nature to want to get something for nothing ( which is entropically impossible). Just watch out for your karma!
I notice that this site is advertising Wiretap Studio, what do you think that it's for other than copying/recording music from the internet?


jimdubpram, you're right. some artists put their stuff on Limewire and other p2p sites to get the word out. Even struggling bottom feeders like me (no I haven't but...). However, the reason is not because it is the best way, it is because for a long time it was the only way. With the advent of internet radio and podcasting (I am a podcaster and also run an internet radio site) and sites like MySpace, there are plenty of other options to spread the word about your music. And I believe they are better at doing so, especially since the majority of people hitting p2p sites are not looking for "deacon blue's" greatest hits, they are looking for Led Zeppelin's hits instead.

As to human nature... weak argument, my friend. It is human nature to kill those not like you, to promote genocide, rape, torture, murder, etc. Because many people do it does not make it right. And no, I am not placing stealing a song in the same category, just making a point.

Wiretap pro has many uses. Much like a gun. A gun can be used to hunt game and put food on your table (the best reason to have one) or it can be used (in the words of Lynrd Skynrd's "Mr. Saturday Night Special") "... got a barrel that's blue and cold. Ain't good for nuthin', but put a man 6 feet in a hole...".

I know of plenty of people who use WireTap to record from their USB mics and capture their rehearsals, their music lessons, etc.

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People is too dammed spoiled these days... """Kids are getting fat playing video games""
when I was a kid there was this New song by Zep I wanted so bad it was not on any Album yet So I bought the 45. I got 2 songs for $1.49 that was 1978.
So 99 cents per song is Not Bad in 2008.


BoStar, you just dated yourself. And me along with ya. I am right there. I used to have multiple copies of all my favorite songs. Buy the 45 'cause the album wasn't out yet. End up with two copies when the album hit the shelves. Oh and then when you wore that vinyl out playing it over and over trying to cop a Jimmy Page riff for your very own, go out and buy another copy.

And I think that frosty and mortalengines both nailed it. There are sites out there where the sole purpose is to get new music for free that is on the net strictly to promote new talent. Going to the South Park Music Festival in 2006 was what prompted me to get off my arse and get back in the studio and start self promoting. Independent music is where it is at. There is so much talent (and I have heard some of the songs of people on this forum that just blow me away as well) yet untapped only because Sony, BMG, EMI, Electra, Capitol, etc. (ok I just dated myself again with that list) don't think you sound enough like Britney or Justin to take a risk on you. Their loss.

MacDaddy, you know I hold you in high regard. I agree, you get what you pay for (or don't). And, in the big picture, in the words of John Lennon,

"...Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin at fools like me
Who in the hell dyou think you are
A super star
Well, right you are

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Evryone come on..."

Plus, a part of our agreement we 'signed' when creating our accounts on MacMusic was to not post illegal software nor copyrighted materials. That p2p sites are not 'here' does not make it any more 'right' to recommend their use to infringe on the rights of others.

sorry for the soap box. Just a topic near and dear to me (obviously).

peace. Y'all have a great day.


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post Wed 16 Jan 2008, 00:07
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Well I knew that would get y'all going.

So when your mate got the new Led Zep album and you had a spare C90 in your cassette player you sure as hell(or heaven) didn't go round and record it from his record player?

For cassette player read computer
For record player read internet.

This is global consciousness breaking out. Everything miniaturizes, everything becomes more sophisticated. All knowledge becomes available. Music being one of the major creative forces of the universe is the leading edge of the future wave. It can be muffled up behind your cash register, but hey now what's that sound, everybody wants what's going round. And everybody can now knock up a tune on their DAW. The cat is out of the bag folks. Instead of having to contort your body to make a tune you just have to train your fingertips.
Beauty is in the ear of the listener.
And by the way, I agree, stealing is still stealing.


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