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Posted by: backshed Mon 3 May 2004, 16:44

I'm mastering with DP3 and waves gold. I'm monitoring with tannoy 6.5's, and my loudspeakers are Bose 301's. I'm burning with Maxell cd's.

I've got the project sounding great (to my ears), I've dithered and got it down to 16 bit, and I'm using 'Toast' to burn to cd. The problem is that the cd comes out sounding very flat...not at all what I've got happening in the monitors. I've done a test where I mastered a song, burned it on cd, and played it back using the same speakers, and it's no where near the same. Can any one explain that?

I just wondered if anyone could offer a solution for this problem. Should I avoid using the G4 to burn? Is Toast really just a breakfast snack after all?

Posted by: jklimeck Mon 3 May 2004, 18:39

There is absoutely no reason at all that your sequence that is playing in DP3 should not sound exactly the same (imperceptible at least) as on the CD.

Are you sure you are bouncing all effects, compressors, reverbs, L1 Maximizer to Disk. It sounds like you are not. So you will wind up with a un-processed, flat, track

Once you are sure this is done and it is soundbyte, export that soundbite as an AIFF (or SD2) but I prefer AIFF and drag it to Toast or iTunes, I use iTunes to burn CD's, custom playlists, don't know why people pay for Toast when you have the great and free iTunes.

My guess is if you are mastering (I would be using the Waves L1 Maximizer) on my master outputs, make sure this is on and hot, either Final Master or Heavier Limiting pre-set.

The L1 is the thing, hopefully you are using it, if the track is "banging" in the DP3 sequence then it will on the CD, if the track is wek in the DP3 sequence it wil be on the CD.

Posted by: backshed Mon 3 May 2004, 19:43

Thanks for answering. Yes, I'm using L1 Ultra max, and the track is really sounding good in the sequencer, that's why I'm so frustrated.

I think I'm bouncing everything correctly...highlighting the track and master fader then bouncing to disk. Is this the correct way to do this?

I'm bouncing as split stereo, 16 bit, aiff. I recorded at 24/48. Is there a special way to convert from 48 to 44.1?

Posted by: jklimeck Mon 3 May 2004, 19:55

The way I do it is highlight the waveform track and usually I have L1 Max up (showing) then I bounce as a Soundbite, when bouncing occurs you can see the levels going thru the L1, that way you know it is being applied.

Maybe something is happeing in your conversion, once in the soundbites window, select the bounced track and smaple rate convert to 16 bit, 44.1, that should be it.

Hard to tell without seeing and or hearing the track.

What are you using for your audio interface, MOTU 828 mkII? (that is what I use).

Is this for a project, (etc.) I could help you out with it, perhaps, its up to you.

what kind of music, instruments, etc.

thanks,

jk

Posted by: backshed Mon 3 May 2004, 20:13

Is bouncing as a soundbyte different than bouncing to disk?

I'm using an 828 as well. Thanks for the offer to help out...I'll keep you posted on my progress.