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Posted by: TKNO1 Fri 12 Mar 2004, 07:34

Has anyone got their hands on Logic Express since the announcment at Namm? Would like to know how it works on a PowerBook. Thanks

Posted by: wobbler Fri 12 Mar 2004, 15:26

I just bought myself a M-Audio Firewire 410 soundcard, mixer, mic and Logic Express to use with my 1,33 GHz 17" Powerbook. Installation went ok and LE seem to work perfectly, buuut... since I'm a total noob when it comes to Logic, I don't understand much. I have been using Reason for some years now, and plan to mainly use the instruments in Reason, ReWired via LE (that will handle sequencing and audio-in).

Are there any noob-tutorials around for LE? I really need a step-by-step guide about how LE works etc, since the manual imho sucks. tia.

Posted by: multijd Fri 12 Mar 2004, 18:37

I just started using logic express alsoand have muddled my way through a few things. Some people I have talked to say that Logic has a steeplearning curve so therefore I expect it to be kinda slow going. It would be great to find an online source better than the manuals. By the way I couldn't find the tutorials on my cd's. Anyone have any better luck?

Posted by: editbrain Sat 13 Mar 2004, 11:33

you will be happy when you learn to get around. very nice/powerfull software. don't give up (like you could you just paid a bundle...haha)

there are some apple tutorials on there site about how to basically use the basic features of logic. the turtorial is for logic platinum (pro) oops long time user :-), but it will still apply to express.

here are the links:
http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.apple.com/software/pro/logic/quicktour/

the manual can be very discouraging. the PR people who wrote the manual assumed to much, but if Emagic/Apple were to not assume you would have to read about a billion-gazillion-trillion pages. whew...okay...

i am feeling wordy tonight. anyhow if you have some basic questions email me, or replay to this post. i will not hand feed you because learning to move around in Logic will be one of the major influences on how you use the Application, and that will shape your outcome/sound of the tracks that you write. So..

Learn Screensets. Understand that you can kill your CPU with big VST's (V-Station, etc) so learn to bounce those tracks to files. Learn to use Peak Limiters (I use the Apple AU limiter mostly) i do not use platinum/pro in my project studio so i don't have access to my Logic Limiters when i lay down the arrangement for a lot of my songs, but that is okay. Learn to use the sample editor! it will save you a lot of time with vocals and alignment of audio objects (audio files). check out the event editors preferences. (Lots of goodies in there) Matrix editor is cool.

anyway i have rambled enough. have fun. ask questions and learn your tools that you have choosen.

EITHER WORK TO MAKE IT, OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO FAKE IT.
CAUSE SOUND IS WHAT CONFORTS US, FRIGHTENS US, CONNECTS US. TO BE HEARD IS A WONDER IN ITS OWN. NOTHING MAKES ME MORE AWARE OF LIFE, LOVE, PAIN, AND CONSCIOUSNOUS. IF ALL I EVER RECORD IN THIS LIFE IS THE WIND THEN I HAVE CHANGED THE WINDS OF TIME. -- editbrain

IMO

happy recording,

editbrain

Posted by: Riverdog Sun 14 Mar 2004, 02:59

Logic is a very powerful program and editbrain is right...
It's a steep learning curve...

I've been using Logic for years and I remember it took me nearly two days just to learn how to get audio into the thing..>!

Good stuff... Keep Plugging... With Logic it's worth it...

Posted by: Edmund Jacobsen Tue 30 Mar 2004, 09:43

There's a new book out about Logic.

Check the following article in Sound On Sound (scroll a bit down on the page) http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/studioessentials.htm?session=cf17f76cbf10ca9e43f255f97e9a95f5

Posted by: torsion Fri 2 Apr 2004, 13:14

Go to http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.logicuser.net/phpapps/phpBB2/index.php for a lot of helpful support from Logic users. I'm a new Logic Express user and have found this resource very useful.

Here's a summary of some of my posts there:

I can highly recommend "Apple Pro Training Series: Logic 6" by Martin Sitter & Robert Brock. As a new Logic user I would not have been able to survive without this book. The writing style is easy to understand and the information is very well organised. Although each chapter builds on knowledge gained previously in the book, passages can be read in random order if guidance on a given topic is needed. As a general reference source this book is very good.

I think one or two of the other books available are now quite old and would probably be of more benefit to people using older versions of the software. Although the above book was also written before the latest incarnations of the software ('Express' and 'Pro') were released, they are a lot newer than some of the others, and my copy of Logic Express doesn't appear to differ much from what they are describing in Apple Pro Training book.

Some tutorial files can be found here: http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.emagicusa.com/supportfiles and I believe the one referred to in the manuals is on the Xtreme Digital Samples CD included in the Logic Express package. I haven't tried any of them, as they all appear to be for previous versions of Logic.

The Emagic Infoweb at http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://atlas.emagic.de/emagic_infoweb_e/index.html , which the company likes to herald as a definitive online resource, is somewhat less than comprehensive in my opinion. There is also a lack of resources anywhere else on the web, with the exception of this site and the one mentioned above.

As an Express user, I find the way the missing "Pro" modules are constantly shoved in our faces under the plug-in menus a little insulting too. It's like they're saying "Here's what you could have if you weren't such a cheapskate!"

I still believe Logic Express is excellent software for the money, but we have been hard done by in terms of manuals and support. I've paid far less money for software in the past and been given a much better overall package.

I use Express on an ancient 400mhz G4 and thanks to the "freeze" function it is perfectly useable, if a little slow at times.