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Posted by: BERTOUILLE Thu 6 Mar 2003, 09:31

hello,

I've bought the PHATMATIK PRO plug in online a few days ago.

maybe I'm an idiot but I don't know how to use correctly this plug in
with my LOGIC AUDIO host sequencer on MAC G4

The installation was good and everything seems to work well but :

when I call and import a sampled loop from the hard disk or
from a CD ROM like SOUNDSCAN or any other, when I hit the play button I can
hear the sound of the loop good but just for 1 second and not the entire
loop sample (approx 10 seconds !)

I have this problem on every loop so it's impossible for me to use PHAT PRO
until I find the solution !

who is it possible ?
what can I do know ?
am I stupid or not ?

Another question :

I don't understand pretty well how you can change the tempo settings of the
sampled loop in PHAT Pro ?

For example my song (in Logic) is set to a tempo of 79,55 Bpm how can I
adjust the tempo in PHAT Pro to have a good loop in the right time ? (79,55
Bpm and not 80 Bpm or else)

How do you calculate the exact number of beat in your loop (I know I'm very
ignorant !!!!)
and so how do you find the right tempo ?

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLIES

Posted by: Synthetic Tue 18 Mar 2003, 07:09

I d/l a demo of that plug a while back and never really figured it out either. I can give you some tips on tempo though... there are several ways to figure out the tempo of a loop 1) you can get a rough idea by watching a clock for say 15 seconds and count the down beats in that period and multiply by 4, there are a few little apps that let you tap the beats on your mouse and it tries to find an average of the timing of your tap and shows tempo, if you set loop length exactly so it loops perfectly... then play with Logics tempo setting until the sample fits the correct amount of bars and Logic has a function that will try to find a tempo of an audio sample I think.

So sorry I can't help with Phatmatik plug but maybe that will help with tempo questions

Posted by: jontheory Fri 21 Mar 2003, 19:03

Phat pro is used to trigger their formatted sample loops via MIDI, therefore allowing tempo changes within your host sequencer to determine how fast or slow you want the Phat pro loop to play back....however
obtaining bpm for an audio sample is not as easy.
1.First you have to obtain the sample length in time (samples / sample rate [44100])
2.count the beats in the loop (easy for drums)
3.multiply beat by 60 (this is a time reference)
4.divide answer to number 3 (beat . 60) by sample length (samples / sample rate)

the formula reads something like:
bpm: time/beats = 60/x

and there you go...I always keep a calculator in the studio....hope that helps!
PEACE!
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